[Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing tohurt or insult anyone

Tue Apr 2 01:49:20 UTC 2013

And now we've finally got one! <Grin!>

Chris

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-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Tardif
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:20 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing tohurt or
insult anyone

Yes indeed, and we sang about wanting a nacless year and that the blind
would be better off for it.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 11:41 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing tohurt or 
insult anyone

Oh yes... "NAC, NAC, get off our back!" That was the chant which was used at
all NAC-tracking protests. Read "Walking Alone and Marching Together" for
more information on the Federation's relations with NAC in the 1970's and
1980's.

Chris

Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
Public Relations Committee
Maryland Association of Blind Students
Phone: (443) 547-2409

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gloria
Whipple
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:21 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
insult anyone

Oh yes, I remember NAC.

Gloria Whipple

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Tardif
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 16:55
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
insult anyone

I will bring this up because it indirectly has to do with blindness in that
I was in Manhattan many years ago for a NAC tracking event.  For anyone who
is knew to the Federation, NAC stood for the National Acreditation Counsel
of Agencies Serving the Blind, and we knew them for an organization who
really did not have the interests of the blind at heart, and we would visit
their meeting sites every year and demonstrate.  Anyway, this day I took the

train into the city and got off at Pen Station, realizing that I had over 20

blocks of walking uptown to reach the hotel where people were gathering.  So

I asked another pedestrian about transportation options uptown to West 57th
Street.  He surprised me by asking if I wanted to take the subway or a bus?
I thought, "great transportation, and on Saturday."  When I asked which
would be better, he said in this definite, loud but not rude way, "You got a

choice."  When I decided to take the bus and he showed me where the nearest
bus stop was, I explained to him what we were doing, and in a facetious way
he said we should have brought weapons.  Obviously he was kidding, but it
was that New York type of humor that I was expecting and could appreciate.
Incidentally, I don't think I waited more than 2 or 3 minutes for a bus
coming up Eighth Avenue, yes, even on a Saturday morning.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message-----
From: cheryl echevarria
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:02 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
insult anyone

I think that taken out of content, it meant to say we New Yorkers give the
shirts off our back to help those including our shoes and socks thrown in.
The cross dresser thing, don't know if you were kidding,  but we might have
them here on the list, so please be kind to what you write.
Because we have LGT members with the NFB and some of my closest friends with

the NFB are Gay or Lesbian or cross dressers.

Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State Leading the Way in
Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel Advocate!Cheryl
Echevarria,
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatrave
l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com2012
Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
#1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National Federation of
the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
http://www.NFBNY.org after Hurricane Sandy and other resources. Any vacation

package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be

traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the

affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families
and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate
as well.  You do not need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through
us.

> From: satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:53:26 -0500
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to
> hurt or insult anyone
>
> I am with you Gloria.  I would be happy to discuss my shoes off list
> with any interested woman, but discussing it with a cross dresser
> creeps me out!
>
> Constance Canode
> Sent from my I-phone
>
> On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, "Gloria Whipple"
> <glowhi at centurylink.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Cheryl,
> >
> > Thanks so much for posting that.
> >
> > I agree with you ho heartedly.
> >
> > Gloria Whipple
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > cheryl echevarria
> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:15
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt
> > or insult anyone
> >
> > Not being the moderator of the list just being a member of this
> > division

> > and
> > this is to be taken as someone caring for all here, and these 2
> > weeks are some of the holiest weeks of the year with both passover
> > and easter, which just means we should be kind to each other not
> > just this week but all the time.
> > We have all tried to be honest and help Peter.
> > Let us hope that Peter and those that might be reading this and
> > think either good or bad thoughts.
> > We cannot make everyone happy what we post, I am the one always
> > trying to post apologetic before I even say anything in regards on
> > insulting anyone that doesn't know me personally.
> > When we write something whether it is an e-mail or even talking on
> > the phone, some people might take the person on the other end of the
> > phone being rude when they are just trying to be direct, that is 2
> > different things.
> > So sometimes we have to read what is being said than the way we want
> > it to come out.
> > I know a famous NFB member Anil Lewis, who has been our National Rep
> > here in NY at our conventions one year it was in 2007 when he first
> > came and I was one of the NY State 2007 Scholarship Winners.
> > In one of his speeches, he was talking about New Yorkers, and he has
> > heard New Yorkers are rude and obnoxious people.  He says we are
> > totally the opposite, we give the shirts of our backs, and like Carl
> > Jacobsen says we will even through in the shoes and socks if you
> > need them as well.
> > Anil has said over and over again. New Yorkers are rude, we are
> > direct people and get to the point.
> > So we should try to remember that, unless we know the person
> > personally, then we should take what we write as help and not trying
> > to insult or put people down.
> > I myself tend to be extremely sensitive, but it also shows that I
> > have a heart and it can be broken.
> > Please be kind to one another.
> > God bless and enjoy each other.
> > Cheryl
> >
> >
> > Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State Leading the Way
> > in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel
> > Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
> >
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatrave
> > l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com2012 Norwegian Cruise
> > Line University Advisory Board Member.
> > Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
> > #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
> > Federation

> > of
> > the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
> > http://www.NFBNY.org after Hurricane Sandy and other resources. Any
> > vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and
> > vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of
> > my earnings will go to

> > the
> > affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for
> > families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per booking will go
> > to the affiliate as well.  You do not need to be a member of the
> > NFB.org, just book through us.
> >
> >
> >> From: glowhi at centurylink.net
> >> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> >> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:56:27 -0700
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
> >>
> >> Peter,
> >>
> >> No one on these lists twisted your arm for being here. You are free
> >> to
> > come
> >> and go as you please.
> >>
> >> Gloria Whipple
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Peter
> > Wolfe
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 05:37
> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
> >>
> >> Ray,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    Is anybody requiring you to read any post? I don't see anything
> >> that I've written that wouldn't be either ignored or not taken
> >> personally at all. You want to talk about me being sensitive, yet
> >> your more sensitive than me. Who are you to say that I'm about done
> >> anyways? As far as I know your not even a moderator, but if they do
> >> decide to kick me off go ahead. It really wouldn't bother me
> >> anyways cause of the totalatarian like fascism on here that no
> >> rational person would want to join anyways. Trying to have some fun
> >> and can't be myself at all on blind list just horrid and opressive like
Stalin.
> >>
> >>
> >> bye and blocking you now Ray
> >>
> >> On 3/30/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> >>> This looks like a message that's suppposed to be off list.  Just
> >>> my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> I think you're about done.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for
> >>> the
> > blind
> >>> built-in!
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> >>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Constance,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   What type of teddy bears do you own and what did you call them?
> >>>> I own some teddy bears in order or significance of which I talk
> >>>> to them is as follows: Pete the purple dragon, Princess Fluffy
> >>>> the big stuff doll, John Deer the reindeer, Blue the blue bunny
> >>>> and Chip the chimpanzee too! I do love talking and interacting
> >>>> with my dolls almost on a daily basis as well and don't care what
> >>>> you all think either for it! Where all have you traveled to with
> >>>> your husband and without him?
> >>>> I've been to several locations in and outside of this country
> >>>> like The Bahamas on a five day cruise march 2012 from Port
> >>>> Canaveral which is no where near Orlando, Florida like they said
> >>>> it was.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   What is your opinion on gay marriage? I'll tell you guys
> >>>> something that I've actually called in on C-Span in favor of gay
> >>>> marriage myself. My grandma lives on a indian reservvation so I'm
> >>>> advocating for myself and relating to minority opression. I don't
> >>>> understand why people are against equal rights especially as one
> >>>> minority has aided the other minority with it in kin. Some of the
> >>>> nices people are gays that is from personal experience just seems
> >>>> wrong. I guess this is an annoying thing as it relates to
> >>>> political machine today that nobody can agree even on basic dignity
anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   By the way, what types of sports are you into or play? I'm
> >>>> curious cause it seems that some sports are more accessible like
> >>>> baseball, nascar or perhaps football than basketball. I used to
> >>>> be a forward point guart as a sighted person and can't stand
> >>>> spectator sports anymore. I'm more likely to listen to some
> >>>> soccer or vollyball or something. Do you know what sport that I'm
> >>>> interested in now? I don't know whether that I could do it or not
> >>>> but ballet? I am really into yoga right now not sure whether that is
a sport but doubt it.
> >>>> Anyways,
> >>>> it shares the flexible positioning going on and I went shopping
> >>>> the other day with a friend and say a few things in that sporting
area.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> see ya,
> >>>> Peter
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/30/13, Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>>> I love cooking, collecting teddybears, getting involved in
> >>>>> liberal political issues.  I also enjoy reading, television,
> >>>>> movies and music and of course technology and try to learn
> >>>>> something new all the time  I love
> > shopping
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> Amilda Marcos has nothing on me in the shoe department, lol  My
> > husband
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> and I travel and spend time with friends when I can get off
> >>>>> work.  I
> > am
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> sports fanatic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Constance Canode
> >>>>> Sent from my I-phone
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear NFB members,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  What all hobbies do you guys individually like to do? I'm
> >>>>>> asking cause I find myself with nothing to do till my
> >>>>>> counseling becomes
> > more
> >>>>>> affective and I get an update on my perscription as well. I
> >>>>>> like history, political science, news, traveling, trying new
> >>>>>> cuisines, agriculture, programming websites, talking,
> >>>>>> researching, reading, and learning are just a few things that I
> >>>>>> enjoy. Believe it or not that I've been traveling on train,
> >>>>>> boat, car, airplane and bus throughout this country! Yes, I've
> >>>>>> even been on a cruise line with almost being thrown off the
> >>>>>> cruise boat in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean that was as I
> >>>>>> was blind too! So, its wrong that people think that blind
> >>>>>> people can't do everything cause I've proven them wrong too on
> >>>>>> that one as well. I'd appreciate any comments in a nonvile
> >>>>>> spirited way or else just don't reply.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Cordially,
> >>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> >>>>>> cum laude Auburn University
> >>>>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> >>>>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
> > anything"
> >>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe
> >>>>>> "Stand up for your rights"
> >>>>>> Bob Marley
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Cordially,
> >>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> >>>> cum laude Auburn University
> >>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> >>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
> >>>> anything"
> >>>> Peter Q Wolfe
> >>>> "Stand up for your rights"
> >>>> Bob Marley
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Cordially,
> >> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> >> cum laude Auburn University
> >> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> >> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
> >> Peter Q Wolfe
> >> "Stand up for your rights"
> >> Bob Marley
> >>
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