[Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing tohurt or insult anyone

Tue Apr 2 02:16:41 UTC 2013

Yeah, and another chant was, "no more NAC!"

On 4/1/13, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> And now we've finally got one! <Grin!>
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
> Public Relations Committee
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Tardif
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:20 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing tohurt or
> insult anyone
>
> Yes indeed, and we sang about wanting a nacless year and that the blind
> would be better off for it.
>
>
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 11:41 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing tohurt or
> insult anyone
>
> Oh yes... "NAC, NAC, get off our back!" That was the chant which was used
> at
> all NAC-tracking protests. Read "Walking Alone and Marching Together" for
> more information on the Federation's relations with NAC in the 1970's and
> 1980's.
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
> Public Relations Committee
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gloria
> Whipple
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:21 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
> insult anyone
>
> Oh yes, I remember NAC.
>
> Gloria Whipple
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> Tardif
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 16:55
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
> insult anyone
>
> I will bring this up because it indirectly has to do with blindness in that
> I was in Manhattan many years ago for a NAC tracking event.  For anyone who
> is knew to the Federation, NAC stood for the National Acreditation Counsel
> of Agencies Serving the Blind, and we knew them for an organization who
> really did not have the interests of the blind at heart, and we would visit
> their meeting sites every year and demonstrate.  Anyway, this day I took
> the
>
> train into the city and got off at Pen Station, realizing that I had over
> 20
>
> blocks of walking uptown to reach the hotel where people were gathering.
> So
>
> I asked another pedestrian about transportation options uptown to West 57th
> Street.  He surprised me by asking if I wanted to take the subway or a bus?
> I thought, "great transportation, and on Saturday."  When I asked which
> would be better, he said in this definite, loud but not rude way, "You got
> a
>
> choice."  When I decided to take the bus and he showed me where the nearest
> bus stop was, I explained to him what we were doing, and in a facetious way
> he said we should have brought weapons.  Obviously he was kidding, but it
> was that New York type of humor that I was expecting and could appreciate.
> Incidentally, I don't think I waited more than 2 or 3 minutes for a bus
> coming up Eighth Avenue, yes, even on a Saturday morning.
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:02 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
> insult anyone
>
> I think that taken out of content, it meant to say we New Yorkers give the
> shirts off our back to help those including our shoes and socks thrown in.
> The cross dresser thing, don't know if you were kidding,  but we might have
> them here on the list, so please be kind to what you write.
> Because we have LGT members with the NFB and some of my closest friends
> with
>
> the NFB are Gay or Lesbian or cross dressers.
>
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State Leading the Way in
> Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel Advocate!Cheryl
> Echevarria,
> Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatrave
> l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com2012
> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National Federation of
> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
> http://www.NFBNY.org after Hurricane Sandy and other resources. Any
> vacation
>
> package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must
> be
>
> traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to
> the
>
> affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families
> and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate
> as well.  You do not need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through
> us.
>
>
>> From: satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:53:26 -0500
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to
>> hurt or insult anyone
>>
>> I am with you Gloria.  I would be happy to discuss my shoes off list
>> with any interested woman, but discussing it with a cross dresser
>> creeps me out!
>>
>> Constance Canode
>> Sent from my I-phone
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, "Gloria Whipple"
>> <glowhi at centurylink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Cheryl,
>> >
>> > Thanks so much for posting that.
>> >
>> > I agree with you ho heartedly.
>> >
>> > Gloria Whipple
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> > cheryl echevarria
>> > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:15
>> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> > Subject: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt
>> > or insult anyone
>> >
>> > Not being the moderator of the list just being a member of this
>> > division
>
>> > and
>> > this is to be taken as someone caring for all here, and these 2
>> > weeks are some of the holiest weeks of the year with both passover
>> > and easter, which just means we should be kind to each other not
>> > just this week but all the time.
>> > We have all tried to be honest and help Peter.
>> > Let us hope that Peter and those that might be reading this and
>> > think either good or bad thoughts.
>> > We cannot make everyone happy what we post, I am the one always
>> > trying to post apologetic before I even say anything in regards on
>> > insulting anyone that doesn't know me personally.
>> > When we write something whether it is an e-mail or even talking on
>> > the phone, some people might take the person on the other end of the
>> > phone being rude when they are just trying to be direct, that is 2
>> > different things.
>> > So sometimes we have to read what is being said than the way we want
>> > it to come out.
>> > I know a famous NFB member Anil Lewis, who has been our National Rep
>> > here in NY at our conventions one year it was in 2007 when he first
>> > came and I was one of the NY State 2007 Scholarship Winners.
>> > In one of his speeches, he was talking about New Yorkers, and he has
>> > heard New Yorkers are rude and obnoxious people.  He says we are
>> > totally the opposite, we give the shirts of our backs, and like Carl
>> > Jacobsen says we will even through in the shoes and socks if you
>> > need them as well.
>> > Anil has said over and over again. New Yorkers are rude, we are
>> > direct people and get to the point.
>> > So we should try to remember that, unless we know the person
>> > personally, then we should take what we write as help and not trying
>> > to insult or put people down.
>> > I myself tend to be extremely sensitive, but it also shows that I
>> > have a heart and it can be broken.
>> > Please be kind to one another.
>> > God bless and enjoy each other.
>> > Cheryl
>> >
>> >
>> > Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State Leading the Way
>> > in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel
>> > Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>> >
> Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatrave
>> > l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com2012 Norwegian Cruise
>> > Line University Advisory Board Member.
>> > Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>> > #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>> > Federation
>
>> > of
>> > the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>> > http://www.NFBNY.org after Hurricane Sandy and other resources. Any
>> > vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and
>> > vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of
>> > my earnings will go to
>
>> > the
>> > affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for
>> > families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per booking will go
>> > to the affiliate as well.  You do not need to be a member of the
>> > NFB.org, just book through us.
>> >
>> >
>> >> From: glowhi at centurylink.net
>> >> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> >> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:56:27 -0700
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
>> >>
>> >> Peter,
>> >>
>> >> No one on these lists twisted your arm for being here. You are free
>> >> to
>> > come
>> >> and go as you please.
>> >>
>> >> Gloria Whipple
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> Peter
>> > Wolfe
>> >> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 05:37
>> >> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> >> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
>> >>
>> >> Ray,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>    Is anybody requiring you to read any post? I don't see anything
>> >> that I've written that wouldn't be either ignored or not taken
>> >> personally at all. You want to talk about me being sensitive, yet
>> >> your more sensitive than me. Who are you to say that I'm about done
>> >> anyways? As far as I know your not even a moderator, but if they do
>> >> decide to kick me off go ahead. It really wouldn't bother me
>> >> anyways cause of the totalatarian like fascism on here that no
>> >> rational person would want to join anyways. Trying to have some fun
>> >> and can't be myself at all on blind list just horrid and opressive
>> >> like
> Stalin.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> bye and blocking you now Ray
>> >>
>> >> On 3/30/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>> >>> This looks like a message that's suppposed to be off list.  Just
>> >>> my opinion.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think you're about done.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for
>> >>> the
>> > blind
>> >>> built-in!
>> >>> Sincerely,
>> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> >>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Constance,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   What type of teddy bears do you own and what did you call them?
>> >>>> I own some teddy bears in order or significance of which I talk
>> >>>> to them is as follows: Pete the purple dragon, Princess Fluffy
>> >>>> the big stuff doll, John Deer the reindeer, Blue the blue bunny
>> >>>> and Chip the chimpanzee too! I do love talking and interacting
>> >>>> with my dolls almost on a daily basis as well and don't care what
>> >>>> you all think either for it! Where all have you traveled to with
>> >>>> your husband and without him?
>> >>>> I've been to several locations in and outside of this country
>> >>>> like The Bahamas on a five day cruise march 2012 from Port
>> >>>> Canaveral which is no where near Orlando, Florida like they said
>> >>>> it was.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   What is your opinion on gay marriage? I'll tell you guys
>> >>>> something that I've actually called in on C-Span in favor of gay
>> >>>> marriage myself. My grandma lives on a indian reservvation so I'm
>> >>>> advocating for myself and relating to minority opression. I don't
>> >>>> understand why people are against equal rights especially as one
>> >>>> minority has aided the other minority with it in kin. Some of the
>> >>>> nices people are gays that is from personal experience just seems
>> >>>> wrong. I guess this is an annoying thing as it relates to
>> >>>> political machine today that nobody can agree even on basic dignity
> anymore.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   By the way, what types of sports are you into or play? I'm
>> >>>> curious cause it seems that some sports are more accessible like
>> >>>> baseball, nascar or perhaps football than basketball. I used to
>> >>>> be a forward point guart as a sighted person and can't stand
>> >>>> spectator sports anymore. I'm more likely to listen to some
>> >>>> soccer or vollyball or something. Do you know what sport that I'm
>> >>>> interested in now? I don't know whether that I could do it or not
>> >>>> but ballet? I am really into yoga right now not sure whether that is
> a sport but doubt it.
>> >>>> Anyways,
>> >>>> it shares the flexible positioning going on and I went shopping
>> >>>> the other day with a friend and say a few things in that sporting
> area.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> see ya,
>> >>>> Peter
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 3/30/13, Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >>>>> I love cooking, collecting teddybears, getting involved in
>> >>>>> liberal political issues.  I also enjoy reading, television,
>> >>>>> movies and music and of course technology and try to learn
>> >>>>> something new all the time  I love
>> > shopping
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> Amilda Marcos has nothing on me in the shoe department, lol  My
>> > husband
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> and I travel and spend time with friends when I can get off
>> >>>>> work.  I
>> > am
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> sports fanatic.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Constance Canode
>> >>>>> Sent from my I-phone
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Dear NFB members,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  What all hobbies do you guys individually like to do? I'm
>> >>>>>> asking cause I find myself with nothing to do till my
>> >>>>>> counseling becomes
>> > more
>> >>>>>> affective and I get an update on my perscription as well. I
>> >>>>>> like history, political science, news, traveling, trying new
>> >>>>>> cuisines, agriculture, programming websites, talking,
>> >>>>>> researching, reading, and learning are just a few things that I
>> >>>>>> enjoy. Believe it or not that I've been traveling on train,
>> >>>>>> boat, car, airplane and bus throughout this country! Yes, I've
>> >>>>>> even been on a cruise line with almost being thrown off the
>> >>>>>> cruise boat in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean that was as I
>> >>>>>> was blind too! So, its wrong that people think that blind
>> >>>>>> people can't do everything cause I've proven them wrong too on
>> >>>>>> that one as well. I'd appreciate any comments in a nonvile
>> >>>>>> spirited way or else just don't reply.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Peter
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Cordially,
>> >>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>> >>>>>> cum laude Auburn University
>> >>>>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>> >>>>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
>> > anything"
>> >>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe
>> >>>>>> "Stand up for your rights"
>> >>>>>> Bob Marley
>> >>>>>>
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>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Cordially,
>> >>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>> >>>> cum laude Auburn University
>> >>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>> >>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
>> >>>> anything"
>> >>>> Peter Q Wolfe
>> >>>> "Stand up for your rights"
>> >>>> Bob Marley
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>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cordially,
>> >> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>> >> cum laude Auburn University
>> >> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>> >> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
>> >> anything"
>> >> Peter Q Wolfe
>> >> "Stand up for your rights"
>> >> Bob Marley
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