[Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?

[Carly Mihalakis]

Good morning, Mike,

YOU, were on a no-fly list? Have a great day! Car:46 PM 4/4/2013, 
Mike Freeman wrote:
>I was on a no-fly list and never found out why.
>
>Mike Freeman
>sent from my iPhone
>
>On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:17, "Hyde, David W. (ESC)" 
><david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>
> > Peter, being one of those who was involved directly in the 
> problem, I agree with a lot of what you said. If you will remember 
> though, the reason that Steve and Nadine, Jim Gashel, and others 
> were not put on a no fly list, was because there wasn't one.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Peter Donahue
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:16 PM
> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?
> >
> > Hello David and everyone,
> >
> >    This whole exit row business is what caused the controversy in 
> the 1980s and 1990s and this despite documented cases of blind 
> individuals seated in exit rows successfully assisting passengers 
> to safety. As for fires on the wing if you put your hand on the 
> window and it's hotter than normal obviously there's a fire outside 
> the aircraft. Better not open that door.
> > Those idiots forget that if you can feel the heat of the sun from 
> 93 million miles away being able to determine if there's a fire on 
> the wing is a no-brainer. Some of our members who are on some of 
> these lists went to jail for demanding their right to sit in 
> over-wing exit rows but were not put on the no-fly list. Read past 
> issues of The Braille Monitor published in the 1980s and early 
> 1990s for the whole story.
> >
> > Peter Donahue who is glad it will soon be possible to fly 
> privately and avoid some of the controversies blind air travelers 
> have had to put up with over the years including the right to sit 
> in exit rows as with most private jets there's only one  door in to 
> and out of the plane.
> >
> > Peter Donahue
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] The Unfriendly Skies -- What happened?
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I totally agree.Also if you need to exit the aircraft out the emergency
> > exit, you must not have your cane extended as it could put a hole in the
> > slide or life raft.
> > I use a "D-ring" clip on the handle of my cane so I can clip it to a belt
> > loop on my side and leave my hands free and to make it easier to handle my
> > guide dog.
> > By the way, the policy for exiting the plane in an emergency with 
> your guide
> > dog is to go to the exit, pick up your guide dog in your arms and then
> > jumpand land in a sitting position, on to the slide, with your dog in your
> > arms.
> > I can tell you right now and that is not going to happen with my guide dog
> > as he weights 120 pounds.
> > I plan on distracting him and pushing him out ahead of me or have someone
>
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