[Blindtlk] Gmail Upgrade required, avoid deactivation
Kathy Ungaro
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Mon Apr 15 17:20:09 UTC 2013
In regards to 'Gmail Upgrade required, avoid deactivation' I agree with David, I
see this type of e-mail from yahoo and AT&T all the time... if you click on the
link and do what they ask they steal your contact list and e-mail address.
Thank you,
Kathy Ungaro
Illinois Committee of Blind Vendors
53 W. Jackson Blvd. Suite 502
Chicago, IL 60604
(630)234-4444
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Fwd: Gmail Upgrade required, avoid deactivation
(David Andrews)
2. Re: A couple of Mac questions (Jewel)
3. Re: A couple of Mac questions (Chris Nusbaum)
4. Re: eye contact not so important for babies with blindmothers
(Jewel)
5. Re: A couple of Mac questions (Jewel)
6. Re: eye contact not so important for babies with blindmothers
(Chris Nusbaum)
7. Re: A couple of Mac questions (Chris Nusbaum)
8. Re: eye contact not so important for babies with blind
mothers (Gary Wunder)
9. Re: Fwd: Gmail Upgrade required, avoid deactivation
(Steve Jacobson)
10. Re: Fwd: Gmail Upgrade required, avoid deactivation (David Evans)
11. Selecting within excel (Reese)
12. Re: Selecting within excel (Daniel Garcia)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:19:24 -0500
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: Gmail Upgrade required, avoid
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I think it is spam, or malware. It isn't even from a google domain.
Ignore it.
Dave
At 10:10 AM 4/14/2013, you wrote:
>To all who have Gmail accounts,
>
>Have any of you seen the below message? If so, is it a spam or do I really
>need to reactivate my account?
>
>Chris Nusbaum
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>*From:* Service <selvice at regmail.com>
>*Date:* April 14, 2013, 8:53:06 AM EDT
>*To:* dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>*Subject:* *Gmail Upgrade required, avoid deactivation*
>
>Validate <http://bendavidclasps.com/m/mail/> now to avoid suspension
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:16:25 -0400
From: Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A couple of Mac questions
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I was at the Apple Store the other day, looking at MacBooks. The
MagicTrac Pad doesn't allow for gestures the same way the iPhone,
iPod, or iPad does, but I'm told they are trying to integrate them.
The gestures for the pad seem rather cumbersome to me, with
five-finger swipes, four-finger flicks, and the like, but I think I
just haven't given it proper chance. I'm seriously considering buying
a MacBook in the next few years, but I know it will be a very slow
transition. Does anyone know if the Focus Blue displays are supported
on Macs? I have a Focus 40 Blue and having Braille through my computer
is an important feature to me.
Interested in learning more,
Jewel
On 4/13/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> Where you read that the Mac does not read tables well I don't know. Mine
> does. OF course, it depends w what app you're using and how the table is
> and all that. As for the track pad, some of us Mac users do use then,
> others of us like me do not. The track pad does offer the advantage that
> you can do with one hand what normally would require two.
>
>
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
> On Apr 13, 2013, at 8:08 PM, "Bonnie Lucas" <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Just wondering, for those who use a Mac, do you also use the track pad?
>> If
>> so, what are the advantages or disadvantages if there are any. Also, I
>> recently read that the Mac does not read tables well.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Bonnie Lucas
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:24:25 -0400
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A couple of Mac questions
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Jewel,
The Focus line, as well as almost all other Braille displays, are supported
by the Mac.
Chris
Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
Public Relations Committee
Maryland Association of Blind Students
Phone: (443) 547-2409
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:16 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A couple of Mac questions
I was at the Apple Store the other day, looking at MacBooks. The MagicTrac
Pad doesn't allow for gestures the same way the iPhone, iPod, or iPad does,
but I'm told they are trying to integrate them.
The gestures for the pad seem rather cumbersome to me, with five-finger
swipes, four-finger flicks, and the like, but I think I just haven't given
it proper chance. I'm seriously considering buying a MacBook in the next few
years, but I know it will be a very slow transition. Does anyone know if the
Focus Blue displays are supported on Macs? I have a Focus 40 Blue and having
Braille through my computer is an important feature to me.
Interested in learning more,
Jewel
On 4/13/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> Where you read that the Mac does not read tables well I don't know.
> Mine does. OF course, it depends w what app you're using and how the
> table is and all that. As for the track pad, some of us Mac users do
> use then, others of us like me do not. The track pad does offer the
> advantage that you can do with one hand what normally would require two.
>
>
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> blind built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
> On Apr 13, 2013, at 8:08 PM, "Bonnie Lucas" <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Just wondering, for those who use a Mac, do you also use the track pad?
>> If
>> so, what are the advantages or disadvantages if there are any. Also,
>> I recently read that the Mac does not read tables well.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Bonnie Lucas
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:29:09 -0400
From: Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] eye contact not so important for babies with
blindmothers
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Truly fascinating. The part I found most interesting is that the
babies learned at such a young age that not everyone is the same. That
takes a lot of reasoning and judgement. A lot like bilingualism,
indeed.
On 4/12/13, peggy <pshald at neb.rr.com> wrote:
> Glad to read this, I wasn't too concerned with my last two kids but with my
>
> first one everyone kept telling me ... you have no eye contact with her or
> babies love eye contact or she'll develop slower because there's no eye
> contact ... Even when I'd hold other people's babies that didn't like me
> people would say ... that's because you have no eye contact. But my
> daughter, my first, turned out okay, so I didn't worry about it as much with
>
> my last two boys.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sherri
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:40 PM
> To: our-safe-haven at googlegroups.com ; NFB of Florida parents ;
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindtlk] eye contact not so important for babies with
> blindmothers
>
> This is a very fascinating article. I always wondered, because so much
> emphasis is put on eye contact.
>
> Children of Blind Mothers Learn New Modes of Communication
> by Elizabeth Norton on 10 April 2013, 11:45 AM |
>
> Back at you. Babies of blind mothers can still read the faces of the
> sighted.
> Credit: iStockphoto/Thinkstock
> A loving gaze helps firm up the bond between parent and child, building
> social skills that last a lifetime. But what happens when mom is blind? A
> new study shows that the children of sightless mothers develop healthy
> communication skills and can even outstrip the children of parents with
> normal vision.
>
> Eye contact is one of the most important aspects of communication,
> according
> to Atsushi Senju, a developmental cognitive neuroscientist at Birkbeck,
> University of London. Autistic people don't naturally make eye contact,
> however, and they can become anxious when urged to do so. Children for whom
> face-to-face contact is drastically reduced-babies severely neglected in
> orphanages or children who are born blind-are more likely to have traits of
> autism, such as the inability to form attachments, hyperactivity, and
> cognitive impairment.
>
> To determine whether eye contact is essential for developing normal
> communication skills, Senju and colleagues chose a less extreme example:
> babies whose primary caregivers (their mothers) were blind. These children
> had other forms of loving interaction, such as touching and talking. But
> the
> mothers were unable to follow the babies' gaze or teach the babies to
> follow
> theirs, which normally helps children learn the importance of the eyes in
> communication.
>
> Apparently, the children don't need the help. Senju and colleagues studied
> five babies born to blind mothers, checking the children's proficiency at 6
> to 10 months, 12 to 15 months, and 24 to 47 months on several measures of
> age-appropriate communications skills. At the first two visits, babies
> watched videos in which a woman shifted her gaze or moved different parts
> of
> her face while corresponding changes in the baby's face were recorded.
> Babies also followed the gaze of a woman sitting at a table and looking at
> various objects.
>
>
> Live Chat: What Have We Learned About Dinosaurs Since Jurassic Park?
> Thursday 3 p.m. EDT
>
> The babies also played with unfamiliar adults in a test that checked for
> autistic traits, such as the inability to maintain eye contact, not smiling
> in response to the adult's smile, and being unable to switch attention from
> one toy to a new one. At each age, the researchers assessed the children's
> visual, motor, and language skills.
>
> When the results were compared to scores of children of "sighted" parents,
> the five children of blind mothers did just as well on the tests, the
> researchers report today in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B.
> Learning
> to communicate with their blind mothers also seemed to give the babies some
> advantages. For example, even at the youngest age tested, the babies
> directed fewer gazes toward their mothers than to adults with normal
> vision,
> suggesting that they were already learning that strangers would communicate
> differently than would their mothers. When they were between 12 and 15
> months old, the babies of blind mothers were also more verbal than were
> other children of the same age. And the youngest babies of blind mothers
> outscored their peers in developmental tests-especially visual tasks such
> as
> remembering the location of a hidden toy or switching their attention from
> one toy to a new one presented by the experimenter.
>
> Senju likens their skills to those of children who grow up bilingual; the
> need to shift between modes of communication may boost the development of
> their social skills, he says. "Our results suggest that the babies aren't
> passively copying the expressions of adults, but that they are actively
> learning and changing the way to best communicate with others."
>
> "The use of sighted babies of blind mothers is a clever and important
> idea,"
> says developmental scientist Andrew Meltzoff of the University of
> Washington's Institute for Learning and Brain Sciences in Seattle. "The
> mother's blindness may teach a child at an early age that certain people
> turn to look at things and others don't. Apparently these little babies can
> learn that not everyone reacts the same way."
>
> Meltzoff adds that there are many ways to pay attention to a child.
> "Doubtless, the blind mothers use touch, sounds, tugs on the arm, and
> tender
> pats on the back. Our babies want communication, love, and attention. The
> fact that these can come through any route is a remarkable demonstration of
> the adaptability of the human child."
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:31:09 -0400
From: Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A couple of Mac questions
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Thanks, Chris. I just wanted that comfirmation.
On 4/14/13, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jewel,
>
> The Focus line, as well as almost all other Braille displays, are supported
> by the Mac.
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
> Public Relations Committee
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jewel
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:16 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A couple of Mac questions
>
> I was at the Apple Store the other day, looking at MacBooks. The MagicTrac
> Pad doesn't allow for gestures the same way the iPhone, iPod, or iPad does,
> but I'm told they are trying to integrate them.
> The gestures for the pad seem rather cumbersome to me, with five-finger
> swipes, four-finger flicks, and the like, but I think I just haven't given
> it proper chance. I'm seriously considering buying a MacBook in the next
> few
> years, but I know it will be a very slow transition. Does anyone know if
> the
> Focus Blue displays are supported on Macs? I have a Focus 40 Blue and
> having
> Braille through my computer is an important feature to me.
> Interested in learning more,
> Jewel
>
> On 4/13/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>> Where you read that the Mac does not read tables well I don't know.
>> Mine does. OF course, it depends w what app you're using and how the
>> table is and all that. As for the track pad, some of us Mac users do
>> use then, others of us like me do not. The track pad does offer the
>> advantage that you can do with one hand what normally would require two.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
>> blind built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2013, at 8:08 PM, "Bonnie Lucas" <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Just wondering, for those who use a Mac, do you also use the track pad?
>>> If
>>> so, what are the advantages or disadvantages if there are any. Also,
>>> I recently read that the Mac does not read tables well.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Bonnie Lucas
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blindtlk mailing list
>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:34:14 -0400
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] eye contact not so important for babies with
blindmothers
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This is interesting, especially considering the oft-quoted statistic about
blind children only starting to understand what blindness is and that not
all people have it until they are 4 or 5 years old. Very fascinating.
Chris
Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
Public Relations Committee
Maryland Association of Blind Students
Phone: (443) 547-2409
-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:29 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] eye contact not so important for babies with
blindmothers
Truly fascinating. The part I found most interesting is that the babies
learned at such a young age that not everyone is the same. That takes a lot
of reasoning and judgement. A lot like bilingualism, indeed.
On 4/12/13, peggy <pshald at neb.rr.com> wrote:
> Glad to read this, I wasn't too concerned with my last two kids but
> with my
>
> first one everyone kept telling me ... you have no eye contact with
> her or babies love eye contact or she'll develop slower because
> there's no eye contact ... Even when I'd hold other people's babies
> that didn't like me people would say ... that's because you have no
> eye contact. But my daughter, my first, turned out okay, so I didn't
> worry about it as much with
>
> my last two boys.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sherri
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:40 PM
> To: our-safe-haven at googlegroups.com ; NFB of Florida parents ;
> blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindtlk] eye contact not so important for babies with
> blindmothers
>
> This is a very fascinating article. I always wondered, because so much
> emphasis is put on eye contact.
>
> Children of Blind Mothers Learn New Modes of Communication by
> Elizabeth Norton on 10 April 2013, 11:45 AM |
>
> Back at you. Babies of blind mothers can still read the faces of the
> sighted.
> Credit: iStockphoto/Thinkstock
> A loving gaze helps firm up the bond between parent and child,
> building social skills that last a lifetime. But what happens when mom
> is blind? A new study shows that the children of sightless mothers
> develop healthy communication skills and can even outstrip the
> children of parents with normal vision.
>
> Eye contact is one of the most important aspects of communication,
> according to Atsushi Senju, a developmental cognitive neuroscientist
> at Birkbeck, University of London. Autistic people don't naturally
> make eye contact, however, and they can become anxious when urged to
> do so. Children for whom face-to-face contact is drastically
> reduced-babies severely neglected in orphanages or children who are
> born blind-are more likely to have traits of autism, such as the
> inability to form attachments, hyperactivity, and cognitive
> impairment.
>
> To determine whether eye contact is essential for developing normal
> communication skills, Senju and colleagues chose a less extreme example:
> babies whose primary caregivers (their mothers) were blind. These
> children had other forms of loving interaction, such as touching and
> talking. But the mothers were unable to follow the babies' gaze or
> teach the babies to follow theirs, which normally helps children learn
> the importance of the eyes in communication.
>
> Apparently, the children don't need the help. Senju and colleagues
> studied five babies born to blind mothers, checking the children's
> proficiency at 6 to 10 months, 12 to 15 months, and 24 to 47 months on
> several measures of age-appropriate communications skills. At the
> first two visits, babies watched videos in which a woman shifted her
> gaze or moved different parts of her face while corresponding changes
> in the baby's face were recorded.
> Babies also followed the gaze of a woman sitting at a table and
> looking at various objects.
>
>
> Live Chat: What Have We Learned About Dinosaurs Since Jurassic Park?
> Thursday 3 p.m. EDT
>
> The babies also played with unfamiliar adults in a test that checked
> for autistic traits, such as the inability to maintain eye contact,
> not smiling in response to the adult's smile, and being unable to
> switch attention from one toy to a new one. At each age, the
> researchers assessed the children's visual, motor, and language skills.
>
> When the results were compared to scores of children of "sighted"
> parents, the five children of blind mothers did just as well on the
> tests, the researchers report today in the Proceedings of the Royal
Society B.
> Learning
> to communicate with their blind mothers also seemed to give the babies
> some advantages. For example, even at the youngest age tested, the
> babies directed fewer gazes toward their mothers than to adults with
> normal vision, suggesting that they were already learning that
> strangers would communicate differently than would their mothers. When
> they were between 12 and 15 months old, the babies of blind mothers
> were also more verbal than were other children of the same age. And
> the youngest babies of blind mothers outscored their peers in
> developmental tests-especially visual tasks such as remembering the
> location of a hidden toy or switching their attention from one toy to
> a new one presented by the experimenter.
>
> Senju likens their skills to those of children who grow up bilingual;
> the need to shift between modes of communication may boost the
> development of their social skills, he says. "Our results suggest that
> the babies aren't passively copying the expressions of adults, but
> that they are actively learning and changing the way to best communicate
with others."
>
> "The use of sighted babies of blind mothers is a clever and important
> idea,"
> says developmental scientist Andrew Meltzoff of the University of
> Washington's Institute for Learning and Brain Sciences in Seattle.
> "The mother's blindness may teach a child at an early age that certain
> people turn to look at things and others don't. Apparently these
> little babies can learn that not everyone reacts the same way."
>
> Meltzoff adds that there are many ways to pay attention to a child.
> "Doubtless, the blind mothers use touch, sounds, tugs on the arm, and
> tender pats on the back. Our babies want communication, love, and
> attention. The fact that these can come through any route is a
> remarkable demonstration of the adaptability of the human child."
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:42:12 -0400
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A couple of Mac questions
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Jewel,
No problem. I forgot to add that, if you have an iPhone or another iOS
device, any Braille display which is supported by iOS should be supported by
the Mac, as far as I know.
Chris
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From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A couple of Mac questions
Thanks, Chris. I just wanted that comfirmation.
On 4/14/13, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> Jewel,
>
> The Focus line, as well as almost all other Braille displays, are
> supported by the Mac.
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
> Public Relations Committee
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jewel
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] A couple of Mac questions
>
> I was at the Apple Store the other day, looking at MacBooks. The
> MagicTrac Pad doesn't allow for gestures the same way the iPhone,
> iPod, or iPad does, but I'm told they are trying to integrate them.
> The gestures for the pad seem rather cumbersome to me, with
> five-finger swipes, four-finger flicks, and the like, but I think I
> just haven't given it proper chance. I'm seriously considering buying
> a MacBook in the next few years, but I know it will be a very slow
> transition. Does anyone know if the Focus Blue displays are supported
> on Macs? I have a Focus 40 Blue and having Braille through my computer
> is an important feature to me.
> Interested in learning more,
> Jewel
>
> On 4/13/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>> Where you read that the Mac does not read tables well I don't know.
>> Mine does. OF course, it depends w what app you're using and how the
>> table is and all that. As for the track pad, some of us Mac users do
>> use then, others of us like me do not. The track pad does offer the
>> advantage that you can do with one hand what normally would require two.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
>> blind built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2013, at 8:08 PM, "Bonnie Lucas" <lucas.bonnie at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Just wondering, for those who use a Mac, do you also use the track pad?
>>> If
>>> so, what are the advantages or disadvantages if there are any. Also,
>>> I recently read that the Mac does not read tables well.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Bonnie Lucas
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:51:13 -0500
From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] eye contact not so important for babies with
blind mothers
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Thanks for posting this.
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:41 PM
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Subject: [Blindtlk] eye contact not so important for babies with blind
mothers
This is a very fascinating article. I always wondered, because so much
emphasis is put on eye contact.
Children of Blind Mothers Learn New Modes of Communication by Elizabeth
Norton on 10 April 2013, 11:45 AM |
Back at you. Babies of blind mothers can still read the faces of the
sighted.
Credit: iStockphoto/Thinkstock
A loving gaze helps firm up the bond between parent and child, building
social skills that last a lifetime. But what happens when mom is blind? A
new study shows that the children of sightless mothers develop healthy
communication skills and can even outstrip the children of parents with
normal vision.
Eye contact is one of the most important aspects of communication, according
to Atsushi Senju, a developmental cognitive neuroscientist at Birkbeck,
University of London. Autistic people don't naturally make eye contact,
however, and they can become anxious when urged to do so. Children for whom
face-to-face contact is drastically reduced-babies severely neglected in
orphanages or children who are born blind-are more likely to have traits of
autism, such as the inability to form attachments, hyperactivity, and
cognitive impairment.
To determine whether eye contact is essential for developing normal
communication skills, Senju and colleagues chose a less extreme example:
babies whose primary caregivers (their mothers) were blind. These children
had other forms of loving interaction, such as touching and talking. But the
mothers were unable to follow the babies' gaze or teach the babies to follow
theirs, which normally helps children learn the importance of the eyes in
communication.
Apparently, the children don't need the help. Senju and colleagues studied
five babies born to blind mothers, checking the children's proficiency at 6
to 10 months, 12 to 15 months, and 24 to 47 months on several measures of
age-appropriate communications skills. At the first two visits, babies
watched videos in which a woman shifted her gaze or moved different parts of
her face while corresponding changes in the baby's face were recorded.
Babies also followed the gaze of a woman sitting at a table and looking at
various objects.
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The babies also played with unfamiliar adults in a test that checked for
autistic traits, such as the inability to maintain eye contact, not smiling
in response to the adult's smile, and being unable to switch attention from
one toy to a new one. At each age, the researchers assessed the children's
visual, motor, and language skills.
When the results were compared to scores of children of "sighted" parents,
the five children of blind mothers did just as well on the tests, the
researchers report today in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B. Learning
to communicate with their blind mothers also seemed to give the babies some
advantages. For example, even at the youngest age tested, the babies
directed fewer gazes toward their mothers than to adults with normal vision,
suggesting that they were already learning that strangers would communicate
differently than would their mothers. When they were between 12 and 15
months old, the babies of blind mothers were also more verbal than were
other children of the same age. And the youngest babies of blind mothers
outscored their peers in developmental tests-especially visual tasks such as
remembering the location of a hidden toy or switching their attention from
one toy to a new one presented by the experimenter.
Senju likens their skills to those of children who grow up bilingual; the
need to shift between modes of communication may boost the development of
their social skills, he says. "Our results suggest that the babies aren't
passively copying the expressions of adults, but that they are actively
learning and changing the way to best communicate with others."
"The use of sighted babies of blind mothers is a clever and important idea,"
says developmental scientist Andrew Meltzoff of the University of
Washington's Institute for Learning and Brain Sciences in Seattle. "The
mother's blindness may teach a child at an early age that certain people
turn to look at things and others don't. Apparently these little babies can
learn that not everyone reacts the same way."
Meltzoff adds that there are many ways to pay attention to a child.
"Doubtless, the blind mothers use touch, sounds, tugs on the arm, and tender
pats on the back. Our babies want communication, love, and attention. The
fact that these can come through any route is a remarkable demonstration of
the adaptability of the human child."
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Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:30:45 -0500
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
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This looks like a very poorly disguised attempt to get access to your GMail
account. The URL isn't even GMail. Smarter approaches will have a
displayed URL that looks like the desired URL but another address gurried in the
link.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
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>Chris Nusbaum
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 00:04:19 -0400
From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: Gmail Upgrade required, avoid
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Dear All,
This is a "fishing" scam to get your I.D. and information.
Never click on e-mails that tell you this kind of thing and never on any
link with in it.
If you want to check something like this out, go right to the company's web
site direct in a new message that you create yourself and not one that
someone you do not know sent you.
David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
Retired Nuclear/Aerospace Materials Engineer Builder of the Lunar Rovers and
the F-117 Stealth Fighter
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From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
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Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 4:30 PM
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> This looks like a very poorly disguised attempt to get access to your
> GMail account. The URL isn't even GMail. Smarter approaches will have a
> displayed URL that looks like the desired URL but another address gurried
> in the link.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:10:47 -0400, christopher nusbaum wrote:
>
>>To all who have Gmail accounts,
>
>>Have any of you seen the below message? If so, is it a spam or do I really
>>need to reactivate my account?
>
>>Chris Nusbaum
>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>>*From:* Service <selvice at regmail.com>
>>*Date:* April 14, 2013, 8:53:06 AM EDT
>>*To:* dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
>>*Subject:* *Gmail Upgrade required, avoid deactivation*
>
>>Validate <http://bendavidclasps.com/m/mail/> now to avoid suspension
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:18:21 -0400
From: "Reese" <atlanticstar1 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Blindtlk] Selecting within excel
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Hi list:
I need to select all the rows within an excel spread sheet for sorting
accept the first row which is a heading. So how do I go about selecting
rows 2 through 99 for example? Thanks!
Reese
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:40:14 -0400
From: Daniel Garcia <dangarcia3 at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Selecting within excel
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Go to cell A2.
Hold down the shift key and then the down arrow.
If you need to select more than one column hit the right arrow as you hold
down the shift key.
Daniel
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Hi list:
I need to select all the rows within an excel spread sheet for sorting
accept the first row which is a heading. So how do I go about selecting
rows 2 through 99 for example? Thanks!
Reese
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