[Blindtlk] Fwd: [Nfbv-announce] Retirement of Dr. Maurer

[Bryan Schulz]

hi ray,

what do you expect?
if you question anything like the computer car even though it cost many 
staff their job, expect to get slammed!
Bryan Schulz


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: [Nfbv-announce] Retirement of Dr. Maurer


Paul, You seem, with respect, to be implying that one must choose between 
lack of transparency and a good program for the blind or else full 
transparency and a bad program for the blind.  I do not agree.  Here is what 
I think will go down.  Maurer will support Riccobono and then, when it comes 
convention time, and time to elect the next president, Riccobono will be 
chosen by acclamation without any competition.  Now, if one were to take 
this process strictly in parliamentary terms, it would be impossible to 
quarrel with its legitimacy.  My concern, to speak frankly, is this.  That 
looks too much like a mere hand off instead of a legitimate election. 
Smooth?  Yes.  Efficient?  You’d better believe it.  Morally right?  Well, 
that’s where I have a slight problem.  I’m not saying that this way of doing 
it is completely wrong:  however, when you have a process that looks too 
much like you’re just handing it off, you might as well not even bother with 
the formality of election.  Just might as well go ahead and crown Riccobono 
king of the movement.  I just do not feel terribly comfortable with the way 
things look like they’re going to happen.  Call me a traitor to the movement 
if you will:  but,  ‘Tain’t no skin off my nose.  Look, this procedure just 
don’t set to well with me.

I ain’t sayin that President Mauer can’t support whom he pleases, and I ain’t 
sayin he can not publically say whom he supports nor that he can’t urge the 
members to back his choice:  But, to just do a hand off and have the 
election as a mere formality really bugs me.



Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Dec 1, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Paul Wick <wickps at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ray that's how things have always been in the Federation In the world
> of the organized blind there is an organization that while it lacks
> transparency has a strong program, while another has democratic forms,
> but is kind of an empty suit when it comes to the programming
> department; I would rather be part of the former than the latter. I
> wish President-designate Riccobono well, and may he reach out to all
> the unaffiliated blind people rather than just preaching to the choir.
>
> Best,
>
> Paul
>
> On 12/1/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7706 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I should like to pint out that there seems to be an assumption upon the 
>> part
>> of the top NFB leadership that Mark
>>>
>>> Riccobono will sort of just be given the presency of the federation. 
>>> That
>>> strikes me as not being the proper democratic way to do things.  To 
>>> assume
>>> that just because Doctor Maurer personally supports Mark
>>> Riccobono for president he will just sort of be handed the presidency by
>>> Dr. Maurer and the election of Mark
>>> Riccobono a mere formality strikes me as being very improper.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>> built-in!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2013, at 12:44 PM, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Mark
>>>> Riccobono
>>
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