[Blindtlk] Fwd: [Nfbv-announce] Retirement of Dr. Maurer
Steve Jacobson
steve.jacobson at visi.com
Mon Dec 2 02:36:31 UTC 2013
Ray,
What you are really saying, though, if you think about it, is that President Maurer should not state who he thinks should follow him. What purpose does
that really serve? The only way this will work has a "Hand-off" as you put it is if President Maurer has enough support and trust to have his
recommendation followed. Therefore, the process is important because if he were to not have the support and trust of the membership, there is a means
to elect someone else. To me, that is far more than a technicality.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforet7706 at comcast.net>
>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 5:17 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Fwd: [Nfbv-announce] Retirement of Dr. Maurer
>Paul, You seem, with respect, to be implying that one must choose between
>lack of transparency and a good program for the blind or else full
>transparency and a bad program for the blind. I do not agree. Here is what
>I think will go down. Maurer will support Riccobono and then, when it comes
>convention time, and time to elect the next president, Riccobono will be
>chosen by acclamation without any competition. Now, if one were to take
>this process strictly in parliamentary terms, it would be impossible to
>quarrel with its legitimacy. My concern, to speak frankly, is this. That
>looks too much like a mere hand off instead of a legitimate election.
>Smooth? Yes. Efficient? Youd better believe it. Morally right? Well,
>thats where I have a slight problem. Im not saying that this way of doing
>it is completely wrong: however, when you have a process that looks too
>much like youre just handing it off, you might as well not even bother with
>the formality of election. Just might as well go ahead and crown Riccobono
>king of the movement. I just do not feel terribly comfortable with the way
>things look like theyre going to happen. Call me a traitor to the movement
>if you will: but, Taint no skin off my nose. Look, this procedure just
>dont set to well with me.
>I aint sayin that President Mauer cant support whom he pleases, and I aint
>sayin he can not publically say whom he supports nor that he cant urge the
>members to back his choice: But, to just do a hand off and have the
>election as a mere formality really bugs me.
>Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>built-in!
>Sincerely,
>The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>On Dec 1, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Paul Wick <wickps at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ray that's how things have always been in the Federation In the world
>> of the organized blind there is an organization that while it lacks
>> transparency has a strong program, while another has democratic forms,
>> but is kind of an empty suit when it comes to the programming
>> department; I would rather be part of the former than the latter. I
>> wish President-designate Riccobono well, and may he reach out to all
>> the unaffiliated blind people rather than just preaching to the choir.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 12/1/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7706 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I should like to pint out that there seems to be an assumption upon the
>>> part
>>> of the top NFB leadership that Mark
>>>>
>>>> Riccobono will sort of just be given the presency of the federation.
>>>> That
>>>> strikes me as not being the proper democratic way to do things. To
>>>> assume
>>>> that just because Doctor Maurer personally supports Mark
>>>> Riccobono for president he will just sort of be handed the presidency by
>>>> Dr. Maurer and the election of Mark
>>>> Riccobono a mere formality strikes me as being very improper.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>>> built-in!
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2013, at 12:44 PM, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> Riccobono
>>>
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