[Blindtlk] Out Of Sight, seeing through the eyes of kids who are blind.

Sun Feb 3 23:27:42 UTC 2013

Apparently it is fine to belong to both organizations, but I think you 
cannot be officers of both, and please correct me if I'm wrong.  I found it 
amazing that you could belong to both organizations for a long time, because 
for many years I lived in Connecticut, where it seemed to me that there was 
much friction and even some hostility between the two organizations.  So it 
seemed to me impossible to live in both worlds.  When I lived in Florida, 
however, I found that being a member of both organizations didn't seem to be 
such a major issue.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 5:16 PM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight,seeing through the eyes of kids who are 
blind.

This is a very good question.  In my experience, the NFB is more proactive.
My understanding, too, is that the ACB is more of a social organization,
leaving main decisions to their board members rather than the membership.
In some states both organizations work amicably together, but am not sure if
this is true in all states.  In our state of Idaho, the NFB is predominant.

Anyone on list, please correct my perceptions if necessary.

Year ago, the reason my choice was for the NFB is that I saw independent
proactive people, was impressed with the literature and leadership.  When I
learned of the rich history of blind people as a minority, I realized how
much I'd taken for granted, and want to give back what I can to the
organization in any way I can.

Judy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo" <happychikao at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight,seeing through the eyes of kids who are
blind.

> hello whut is the drifence of nfb (and acb)i am a member of nfb &i
> love it i wont to bee a memberrof a c b. but is it o k?
>
> On 1/31/13, Judy Jones <jtj1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>> Hi, Julie,
>>
>> It sounds like you used the CCTV the way an Optacon user uses the 
>> Optacon.
>> That makes total sense to me.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight, seeing through the eyes of kids who
>> are blind.
>>
>>
>>>I am one of those people with pretty low vision who uses a CCTV.  I also
>>>use JAWS, Voice Over and Braille.  which option I choose for the moment
>>>depends a lot on what I need to get done. There are simply some things 
>>>that
>>>
>>>are more easily accomplished using the CCTV, looking at graphs, filling 
>>>out
>>>
>>>a simple form not immediately available electronically, reading a
>>>handwritten note, looking at complex tables and other things with spatial
>>>relationships.
>>>
>>> I do wonder if the young lady on the program had a toolbox of options or
>>> if she was stuck using the CCTV for everything because she did have some
>>> vision.  I think there needs to be balance, options and the best use of
>>> the right tool for the job.
>>>
>>> Taking each file out of the filing cabinet to read it's label on the 
>>> CCTV
>>>
>>> would be incredibly cumbersome, Braille works better.  Reading a
>>> handwritten police ticket at work is best accomplished with the CCTV.
>>> Writing client reports works best with JAWS.  And when I do classroom
>>> presentations I use my i Pad with Voice Over, an old Braille Note or
>>> sometimes hard copy Braille, depending on which I feel will work best. I
>>>
>>> do carry a portable magnifier with me though because sometimes I need to
>>> access printed stuff on the fly and that is the easiest way for me to do
>>> it.  I can't imagine trying to get all of this done with only one tool.
>>>
>>> And yes, I understand that there are non visual ways of doing these 
>>> tasks
>>>
>>> and I'm not disputing the usefulness or effectiveness of those means. 
>>> I'm
>>>
>>> just saying that for me sometimes using the CCTV works.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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