[Blindtlk] Out Of Sight, seeing through the eyes of kids who are blind.

Mon Feb 4 22:04:19 UTC 2013

Yes, I agree with Judy, you must try to get to a convention, particularly a 
national convention.  You will meet all kinds of people and probably hear 
about all kinds of alternative techniques those of us who are blind use and 
come back feeling really stimulated.  It's fun, it's informative, 
life-changing.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 11:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight,seeing through the eyes of kids who are 
blind.

nfb convvention? i never been whut is it like"

On 2/3/13, Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> Then there appears to be some confusion about belonging to both
> organizations.  Frankly I found it rather strange when I heard some people
> talking about belonging to both, so, Cheryl, thank you, and I stand
> corrected.
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 6:30 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight, seeing through the eyes of kids who
> are blind.
>
> No you cannot belong to both and definitely no to being an officer
>
> Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> Apparently it is fine to belong to both organizations, but I think you
> cannot be officers of both, and please correct me if I'm wrong.  I found 
> it
> amazing that you could belong to both organizations for a long time,
> because
> for many years I lived in Connecticut, where it seemed to me that there 
> was
> much friction and even some hostility between the two organizations.  So 
> it
> seemed to me impossible to live in both worlds.  When I lived in Florida,
> however, I found that being a member of both organizations didn't seem to
> be
> such a major issue.
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Jones
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 5:16 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight,seeing through the eyes of kids who
> are
> blind.
>
> This is a very good question.  In my experience, the NFB is more 
> proactive.
> My understanding, too, is that the ACB is more of a social organization,
> leaving main decisions to their board members rather than the membership.
> In some states both organizations work amicably together, but am not sure
> if
> this is true in all states.  In our state of Idaho, the NFB is 
> predominant.
>
> Anyone on list, please correct my perceptions if necessary.
>
> Year ago, the reason my choice was for the NFB is that I saw independent
> proactive people, was impressed with the literature and leadership.  When 
> I
> learned of the rich history of blind people as a minority, I realized how
> much I'd taken for granted, and want to give back what I can to the
> organization in any way I can.
>
> Judy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo" <happychikao at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight,seeing through the eyes of kids who
> are
> blind.
>
>
>> hello whut is the drifence of nfb (and acb)i am a member of nfb &i
>> love it i wont to bee a memberrof a c b. but is it o k?
>>
>> On 1/31/13, Judy Jones <jtj1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>>> Hi, Julie,
>>>
>>> It sounds like you used the CCTV the way an Optacon user uses the
>>> Optacon.
>>> That makes total sense to me.
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Out Of Sight, seeing through the eyes of kids
>>> who
>>> are blind.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am one of those people with pretty low vision who uses a CCTV.  I also
>>>>use JAWS, Voice Over and Braille.  which option I choose for the moment
>>>>depends a lot on what I need to get done. There are simply some things
>>>>that
>>>>
>>>>are more easily accomplished using the CCTV, looking at graphs, filling
>>>>out
>>>>
>>>>a simple form not immediately available electronically, reading a
>>>>handwritten note, looking at complex tables and other things with
>>>> spatial
>>>>relationships.
>>>>
>>>> I do wonder if the young lady on the program had a toolbox of options
>>>> or
>>>> if she was stuck using the CCTV for everything because she did have
>>>> some
>>>> vision.  I think there needs to be balance, options and the best use of
>>>> the right tool for the job.
>>>>
>>>> Taking each file out of the filing cabinet to read it's label on the
>>>> CCTV
>>>>
>>>> would be incredibly cumbersome, Braille works better.  Reading a
>>>> handwritten police ticket at work is best accomplished with the CCTV.
>>>> Writing client reports works best with JAWS.  And when I do classroom
>>>> presentations I use my i Pad with Voice Over, an old Braille Note or
>>>> sometimes hard copy Braille, depending on which I feel will work best.
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>> do carry a portable magnifier with me though because sometimes I need
>>>> to
>>>> access printed stuff on the fly and that is the easiest way for me to
>>>> do
>>>> it.  I can't imagine trying to get all of this done with only one tool.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, I understand that there are non visual ways of doing these
>>>> tasks
>>>>
>>>> and I'm not disputing the usefulness or effectiveness of those means.
>>>> I'm
>>>>
>>>> just saying that for me sometimes using the CCTV works.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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>> new theem song is no one bee like you used on 12-24-2011. ObianujuIf i
>> had my way i will change my wife's mittle name2Obianuju! if you try
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1love keep us together. Chikodinaka &Happyness's old theem song. our
new theem song is no one bee like you used on 12-24-2011. ObianujuIf i
had my way i will change my wife's mittle name2Obianuju! if you try
you will seg-seed. try try try agan. for if you persevear. you will
konker never fear. try try try agan.

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