[Blindtlk] technology. Is it essential to success?

[Judy jones]

Yes, but that has always been true throughout the ages, that we've had to 
excell above our sighted peers.

Judy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] technology. Is it essential to success?


>I agree.  You have to have natural skills, even more so than the sighted.
> However,  the technology opens doors closed to us earlier.  There are just
> some fields we really had no access to without it.  Most things could be
> done, but you would have to go around your elbow to do them, and your 
> skill
> set had to be so far above average.  Even now, you still have to be better
> than your sighted counterpart just so you can compete.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hyde, 
> David
> W. (ESC)
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:08 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: [Blindtlk] technology. Is it essential to success?
>
> You and I do not disagree about the importance of technology, but, I
> believe, of its place. It makes things easier, cheaper, and faster. I 
> would,
> however argue that there is nothing being done with technology now that
> wasn't done without its current incarnation in former times. Since we're
> talking about employment, it has an overriding import. We need to use the
> tools that others are using. But would you lose your non-technological
> skills if, all of a sudden, technology stopped working? I maintain that 
> the
> critical thinking skills, the ability to use anything available and the
> creativity that an employee needs to possess for most jobs is more 
> important
> than the technology used. Without these, most technology becomes a very
> expensive paperweight.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
> williams
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:59 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] learning Jaws
>
> Yeah, but without those things, are abilities are curtailed.  You have to
> have so many other factors going for you if you don't have access to jaws.
> So, yes, screen readers are nearly inherent to success?  Were there
> successful blind people with then? Yes.  However, nott nearly as many.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hyde, 
> David
> W. (ESC)
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:33 AM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] learning Jaws
>
> Having come up through screen readers when the best on the market was
> something called Video Voice, followed by Provox,, then by Vocal Eyes,
> Arctic Business Vision, Outspoken, JAWS, Window Eyes, and now Voice Over,
> and let us not forget the free ones, I do not agree that any program of
> whatever nature or capability is inherent to our success. Remember, those 
> of
> you who can, that some were successful before there were programs,
> computers, or, for that matter electricity. A fellow named Milton got by
> with only his daughters, although they didn't enjoy the work.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Thomas
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:37 PM
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> Subject: [Blindtlk] learning Jaws
>
> I believe that learning jaws is paramount to a blind persons success.
>
> Yes there is window-eyes but that is not the most popular screen reader.
> Jaws is used in the government and in most businesses.
>
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