[Blindtlk] NFB Guide Dog School

[Peter Donahue]

Hello Cheryl and everyone,

    I've discussed this with Marion privately and suggested that an item 
concerning the creation of an NFB-run guide dog program be put on the NAGDU 
agenda to no avail.  I was at last year's NAGDU Meeting and was very 
disgusted with the reaction of the audience when Marion addressed the group 
concerning the continued practice of ownership retention by guide dog 
programs. Few if anyone applauded his remarks and there was hardly any call 
for a more aggressive response to ending this practice. If things have 
changed when I see picket lines go up in front of the grounds of guide dog 
schools that still retain ownership of the dogs it places with its blind 
students than I'll know there is a new spirit of concerted action within 
NAGDU. I'll be watching the Braille Monitor for this year's NAGDU Agenda to 
see what new item will be included or if it's going to be the 
same-old-same-old!

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Canes and Dogs, the In-House Checkup


The only way any of this is going to happen is to come to national 
convention and come to the NAGDU meeting and work on it together. We are an 
organization, and we should all work together, and if that doesn't work then 
you get the people in that division that will do it.

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> From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:04:07 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Canes and Dogs, the In-House Checkup
>
> No, pamper the dogs.  They work hard and they deserve it.  I like the 
> other
> stuff you said though.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:08 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Canes and Dogs, the In-House Checkup
>
> I think the answer to protecting the dogs is two fold.  First I would
> like to see a more in depth background investigation of the blind
> applicant.  Do a criminal background check, require more references, ask
> the neighbors...whatever it takes.  Adoption agencies place children
> into homes surely we can figure out a way to more accurately know what
> sort of situation the dog will be placed into.  Secondly, I think there
> are already agencies in place for dealing with animal abuse, the police
> and animal control.  I don't see any reason why these agencies can't be
> used in cases of neglect or abuse.
>
> In regard to cost and the blind applicant absorbing the cost of the dog
> in order to own the dog outright is an extremely valid point.  We have
> to stop expecting everything for nothing.  I like the Seeing Eye's
> concept of charging the student.  I do wish that the cost had increased
> over the years with the cost of living.  It has been $150 since the
> beginning of the school in 1928.  I think that's the right year.  $150
> was a very different sum of money then and now.
>
> I also think that guide dogs can be raised and trained for substantially
> lower sums of money than $60,000.  If you look at the various guide dog
> programs and how much each claims it costs to train a dog, the numbers
> vary widely.  All those buildings, fancy food, excessive equipment and
> other niceties cost money.
>
> Julie
>
>
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