[Blindtlk] blindtlk Digest, Vol 81, Issue 21
Kendra Schaber
Baltimore777 at comcast.net
Fri Mar 22 06:53:12 UTC 2013
Have you ever thought of learning the voice lablers and multi recording
devices out there? You might want to look into them so that all he would
have to do is to read the lables for you to record into the voice lablers
and you can record onto S.D. cards for taking notes. Just an idea in the
portable iphoneless to iphone compatable technical gadgits that are out
there to help improve the lives of blind people that can't afford or have
the tallent to learn the iphone or in case of us iphone users, just another
option to make life easier for blind people and in the voice labler's case,
cover one thing that the iphone doesn't yet do well which is to read all of
the print that is on your print labled things.
Kendra
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ericka J. Short" <ericka.short at att.net>
To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] blindtlk Digest, Vol 81, Issue 21
> I'm also over 40 and I totally know how important it is to write stuff
> down somehow. Where did my elephant memory go? I have never heard of
> evenote. Where can that be acquired? We are in the bottom of the 47% so
> we don't have access to all the wonderful apps that out there. Thanks for
> the information about them though. Some day I hope to have aniPhone or
> something that I can use these apps with. I am not very skilled at the
> computer like many of you seem to be. I do not get along with electronics
> at all. That is one thing that drives my computer nerd husband nuts. He
> thinks I can teach myself by playing with it like he can. I only wish! I
> am afraid I'll mess something up. It's happened before and then it
> doesn't work.
>
> Carly, I like what you said about interdependence. Everyone needs to
> learn that. My husband isn't controlling or anything. I do all the work
> around the house including fixing things. I was back at school and still
> had to cook, clean and all the stuff a wife does. I know a part of my
> problem is I have a mamma's boy type who wants to have everything done
> for him but he feels guilty for it so he gets mad when I clean up his
> paper mess or ask him to help me by putting the mail in a certain place so
> I can find it. Mental health issues run in the family and I know there is
> some of that weaving through all this. Meds done always work and we all
> know the system for mental health could be better. BUT he just doesn't
> understand what I can and cant do because I am so independent. He doesn't
> know many blind people who are independent as we know most NFB folks are.
> What I say (and we have had countless chats about what I need and don't )
> doesn't register with his image and so we have a conflict of images. I'm
> not organized any better tan he is, but I am confident and know how to
> adapt most things. I just don't like doing everything myself. Death or
> divorce are one thing, doing it all while married is quite another.
>
> Yes, he's back in school but still can help out some. As all can see,
> it's not black and white. Someone had mentioned not liking changes. I
> think he has a hard time understanding that life changes for me daily.
> One thing I have thought of is giving him a couple days of "practice"
> being visually impaired . Without his glasses he is about as impaired as
> I am . To illustrate, he can drive if he borrows my glasses! Guess who
> finds lost glasses in our house? Me! I've had some of the blindness
> training at BLIND Inc a long time ago. I didn't get help with the things
> I really needed there though. My parents were great and treated me like
> any other kid. My dad insisted on it. He knew he had a good housekeeper
> going into the marriage. I don't realized I sucked at anything computer.
> Math skills are bad, that isn't the same. I think he thought I was
> proficient since he knew most blind people used the talking computers. I
> think that is all he knew about blind people before he met me! I've
> offered to have him learn braille too so we can communicate. I have come
> to the conclusion that he is in denial that I might lose my sight more.
> He is terrified of death too.
>
> I never imaged this question would strike so many to comment. It is so
> good to know I am not alone! I have recently found a visually impaired
> gal who has been married to a sighted guy for years and years. She and
> her husband are going to come down from Milwaukee to share their
> experiences and try to help answers some of his questions. It should
> bring about the communication and relief needed to make things better. He
> says sometimes "I can't be the husband you need." but it is usually when
> he doesn't understand something in relation to my disability. We
> overcame medication interactions for him, uncontrolled seizures for me and
> lots of other things most couples don't have to deal with. It's about
> time we took care of us and really reached out for help. It is bigger
> than we can do right now. I am grateful we don't have children, just the
> furry feline kind. This stress would have not been good for them. So much
> I could have said here, but thank you for helping make our 13th year of
> marriage more stress-free so we can enjoy number 14 in July a lot more!
>
> Peace,
>
> Ericka
>
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> 1. Re: visually impaired married to a sighted (justin williams)
> 2. Re: visually impaired married to a sighted (Peter Wolfe)
> 3. Re: visually impaired married to a sighted (Carly Mihalakis)
> 4. Re: visually impaired married to a sighted (Peter Wolfe)
> 5. Learning Jaws (Peter Wolfe)
> 6. Re: visually impaired married to a sighted (Sean Paul)
> 7. Re: Learning Jaws (Daniel Garcia)
> 8. Re: Learning Jaws (Jewel)
> 9. Re: visually impaired married to a sighted (justin williams)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 19:25:28 -0400
> From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
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> I have to agree. The Can-do attitude is essential for a good marriage,
> especially from the perspective of the blind person; and the sighted
> person, but it may not be as obvious. If you don't have the can-do
> attitude, the sighted spouce either takes complete control because you
> have given up your power, or the spouce gets tired of the marriage. At
> least, that is how I see it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Freeman
> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:33 PM
> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
>
> Jessica:
>
> You say that the NFB "can-do" attitude complicates things in a marriage.
> How so? I feel that the exact opposite is true; this attitude makes things
> far more equal in a marriage in that the sighted person has some
> confidence and expectation that the blind partner will pull his/her own
> weight in the partnership. This attitude only becomes a problem (in my
> view) when one person has been subservient and wants to change and the
> other person resists the change in the dynamic of the partnership or one
> person wants a subservient partner and the other has suddenly become
> "liberated" due to NFB philosophy resulting in conflict.
>
> As I've said elsewhere, open communication is key to coming to a modus
> vivendi on these issues.
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jessica
> Kostiw
> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:26 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Cc: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
>
> Erica and all,
> I too can relate to this thread. My sighted husband and I will be
> married a year on the 24th of this month. He works long hours, and I am
> left to figure things out on my own. On weekends he is exhausted! The NFB
> *can do* attitude makes things very complicated in a marriage. I do live
> in an area where you can walk many places. You cannot walk everywhere
> though, just today my husband had to drive me early about half an hour to
> an NFB event. He is usually very good. He even says it is our car. I feel
> bad though, this is his weekend. Like I say, he works very long hours. I
> depend on my in-laws a great deal. I just moved to town, and really only
> have one friend who I can feel comfortable asking to drive me places
> sometimes. I probably will chime in again. I am watching this thread very
> closely. I appreciate any comments or advice people who have been in my
> situation and Ericas longer.
> Jessica
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Mari Hunziker <marihunziker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> HI Ericka,
>>
>> I can totally relate. I am legally blind, low to high partical depending
>> on
>> the day as well married to a sighted man. We have been married for 15 and
>> a
>> half years and it has taken us a very long time to figure it out. I'd
>> even
>> say we are still learning how to deal with it each day. I too live in a
>> small town in Texas with no transportation. I must rely on neighbors,
>> friends, church members or my husband. He was in school fro the last 8
>> years - gone from 7am till about 11pm. I had to find the courage to ask
>> someone for a ride. He just graduated in December and he is available a
>> little more to help drive me around to get errands done. I've learned
>> that
>> I don't ever get to do what I want to do. Now that we have kids their
>> needs
>> come first. Grocery shopping, clothes, shoe, school supply shopping and
>> then anything else that needs to get done. I have learned to plan and
>> that
>> actually took a while to develop since I am not a very organized person
>> when it comes to meal planning. But my friends from church turned me onto
>> a
>> great monthly planner that does all the work for you. You just follow the
>> steps and viola a sensational meal is ready in minutes. I have attached
>> it
>> here for you and anyone on the list to take and copy. Take a look I think
>> its great. It provides a great example of what to do if you want to
>> change
>> up the recipes to. Its called Month of Menus!. About the blind and
>> sighted
>> thing. There is a Department of Blind Services in your state.
>> http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/blind/ There are several links with
>> information on Adjustment skills, Adaptive Equipment, Blindness
>> Education,
>> Rehabilitation Teaching Services, Resources and Information, etc. Take a
>> look at the link above and call to get some assistance. It will make a
>> huge
>> difference. Also, I am happy to talk or email off list. Let me know if
>> you'd like my info and if you'd like to chat off line. Good luck and God
>> Bless. Life is challenging, but we are all here to help each other
>> through
>> it.
>> Thanks,
>> Mari Hunziker
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Ericka J. Short
>> <ericka.short at att.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I know we usually talk about computers, or philosophy here, but I think
>>> this is an important topic. I just wondered what kind of things people
>>> have
>>> done to make their sighted spouse understand the disability thing. The
>>> biggest part of things for us is that we have horrible transit here in
>>> Kenosha and so it?s difficult to independently travel alone. My
>>> husband
>>> just doesn?t know what to do about this. I take rides with friends or
>>> people from church at times, but some things I want to ride with my
>>> husband
>>> to together. He either feels like he should be my only transportation
>>> or
>>> not at all. It?s driving me batty! Another really big issue is the
>>> fact I
>>> need things organized (not necessarily good at that however) to be more
>>> independent. If he?s going to be all male and dump everything in piles
>>> all over the house for me to trip over every once in a while, then he
>>> can?t
>>> get mad at me for a bill not getting paid, a lost check or his the
>>> credit
>>> card. Mine you there is no may to read a credit card number on a
>>> cctv.
>>> I just can?t do it. He seems to think he should ?know? how to handle
>>> it
>>> and dosent realize that some people have vision that doesn?t stay
>>> stable. Being a partial it is really difficult to explain. Some days I
>>> can see better than others for example.
>>>
>>> I use my cane lots of the time outside the house and sometimes at
>>> church.
>>> Once I learn the set up of a place I don[?t have to ask any more
>>> questions
>>> usually than the average sighted person. I can?t read print or use a
>>> monocular for a lot of outside things or indoors either for that matter.
>>> I
>>> do use strong reading glasses a lot. I am learning braille but I?ve
>>> been
>>> a print user all l my life with minimal computer skills and even less
>>> income Help! I feel like I?m in the twilight zone of sight as it is
>>> and
>>> can see why he?d be frustrated. I am too!
>>>
>>> Ericka
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Have A Blessed Day!
>> Mari Hunziker
>> 512-670-9950 home
>> 512-587-1463 cell
>> *
>> <Month_of_Menus-1.pdf>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:19:50 -0600
> From: Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
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> While I'm not a NFB member, I agree with their philosophy of
> self-sufficency as much as humanly possible. One thing to consider is
> whether you could adaquately take care of yourself especially after
> the spouces eventual death, incapacitation or departure out of the
> relationship. You must always put yourself first in any and all things
> in life. This is definitely true considering your a woman for
> offspring and your own well being as a whole. There can only be good
> that comes from you being independent on your self-esteem, time
> efficiency and perhaps more economic contribution could do wonders in
> any household not just in your specific case. By the way, I'm dealing
> with something similar that a partner isn't allowing me to clean so am
> slowly changing this dynamic.
>
>
> see ya,
> Peter
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 23:17:31 -0700
> From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
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> Hi, Peter,
>
> Perhaps, hbut I can't help wondering about merits of
> interdependence? How can I ignore this layer of socialism? Don't we
> need each other? Isn't that why there isn't a lone person to
> constitute a whole society?
> I spent a lot of time with the federation in Litttleton, Colorado
> while living there. Since then, I have become brain damaged and
> realize I need people to guide me.
> CarAt 06:19 PM 3/17/2013, you wrote:
>> While I'm not a NFB member, I agree with their philosophy of
>>self-sufficency as much as humanly possible. One thing to consider is
>>whether you could adaquately take care of yourself especially after
>>the spouces eventual death, incapacitation or departure out of the
>>relationship. You must always put yourself first in any and all things
>>in life. This is definitely true considering your a woman for
>>offspring and your own well being as a whole. There can only be good
>>that comes from you being independent on your self-esteem, time
>>efficiency and perhaps more economic contribution could do wonders in
>>any household not just in your specific case. By the way, I'm dealing
>>with something similar that a partner isn't allowing me to clean so am
>>slowly changing this dynamic.
>>
>>
>>see ya,
>>Peter
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 05:52:15 -0600
> From: Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
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> Carly,
>
>
>
> Well, I don't know what specifics that you speak about with your
> time with the Federation so can't comment on that portion of your
> comment. However, I realize that not one person can do everything onto
> themselves because that is beyond reality of not only blind people but
> anybody. All I'm saying or the Federation is attempting to convey is
> do as much as humanly possible for yourself for your the only one who
> knows your unique circumstances. No one organizations has the
> resources or man power to weild this into conform with the variants of
> individuals in the world with any level of percission.
>
>
> Whether we all like it or not that the United States is a
> capitalist country with the institutions that enforce these elements
> in our society. We cannot rid ourselves with this reality but we can
> educate ourselves of the practices that discriminate or scam us in
> this system. Irregardless of whatever political belief that
> self-sufficiency is being adopted even in the liberal idealogues in
> D.C to the tech community as a whole as being more cost controls will
> happen. I also think itws a good thing to realize that general rules
> don't apply in all circumstances is a great thing. I've heard of blind
> people in rural Alabama using ropes as guides to get from their dirt
> roaded homes to the streets just a small example of the innovative
> spirit of blind individuals. Creativity is what society and
> individuals with blindness need not more bureaucracy or control as
> much. Maybe one day this all won't matter cause blindness will be
> cured with stem cells or other federal efforts.
>
>
>
> talk soon,
> Peter
>
> On 3/18/13, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hi, Peter,
>>
>> Perhaps, hbut I can't help wondering about merits of
>> interdependence? How can I ignore this layer of socialism? Don't we
>> need each other? Isn't that why there isn't a lone person to
>> constitute a whole society?
>> I spent a lot of time with the federation in Litttleton, Colorado
>> while living there. Since then, I have become brain damaged and
>> realize I need people to guide me.
>> CarAt 06:19 PM 3/17/2013, you wrote:
>>> While I'm not a NFB member, I agree with their philosophy of
>>>self-sufficency as much as humanly possible. One thing to consider is
>>>whether you could adaquately take care of yourself especially after
>>>the spouces eventual death, incapacitation or departure out of the
>>>relationship. You must always put yourself first in any and all things
>>>in life. This is definitely true considering your a woman for
>>>offspring and your own well being as a whole. There can only be good
>>>that comes from you being independent on your self-esteem, time
>>>efficiency and perhaps more economic contribution could do wonders in
>>>any household not just in your specific case. By the way, I'm dealing
>>>with something similar that a partner isn't allowing me to clean so am
>>>slowly changing this dynamic.
>>>
>>>
>>>see ya,
>>>Peter
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
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>
> --
> Cordially,
> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> cum laude Auburn University
> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
> Peter Q Wolfe
> "Stand up for your rights"
> Bob Marley
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 05:56:37 -0600
> From: Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Learning Jaws
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> Dear NFB Talk members,
>
>
> How did all of you learn jaws screen reader? I ask this cause
> apparently to obtain federal employment that you have to learn this
> crutial screen reader application to be able to work with them. I
> currently use window-eyes from GW-Micro and unfortunately Rehab as it
> was then in 2002-2005 that they didn't inform me about this risk.
> Anyways, I don't have the patients of the fourty minute demo and
> Vocational Rehabilitation isn't suseptable to the idea of buying me it
> so am at a crossroads on this issue. I'll continue pressing on Jaws to
> be purchased just don't know how best to learn it either
> freedomscientific.com tutorials or a planned study somewhere like the
> Lousiana school for eight months that is a long time or what. Thanks
> on your opinions on what to consider cause I really badly want
> employment.
>
>
> your fellow liberal,
> Peter
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> cum laude Auburn University
> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
> Peter Q Wolfe
> "Stand up for your rights"
> Bob Marley
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:08:24 -0400
> From: "Sean Paul" <newsandtraffic at aol.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
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>
> Heyya Ericka:
> I am currently on my second marriage, both of my wives are & have been
> sighted. I'll say that the reason that my first marriage didn't work,
> probably could be blamed on the fact that she & I married much to young &
> that both of us could be blamed for much which happened in the 14 years of
> marriage that followed. In other words. I'm not saying it's because I
> couldn't see & she could or she just didn't understand me, what a visually
> impaired person goes through, or, I couldn't understand the sighted world,
> etc. I'd say neither of us could understand the other & it had nothing to
> do
> with sight or not. Then children came & we tried to make it work for those
> children as long as we could until we both figured out that we were doing
> the children more worse by staying together rather than moving on. I'll
> say
> that in my many years of dating both before & between marriages, I've only
> dated 1 visually impaired young lady. &, that relationship was short
> lived.
> That wasn't a conscious decision that I made or didn't make, it was the
> way
> that things went for me. Even going to a blind school & dating whilst in
> highschool, it was always this way for me. I think the major issue here is
> a
> communication issue. Sounds like to me that both of you need to sit down &
> talk this out. Tell him how you feel & listen to how he feels. I'll say
> this. Both of my wives have been mostly understanding about most things.
> Of
> course, they're more than glad to let me clean, do dishes, laundry, etc.
> Yes, transpertation is & will always be an issue for those of us who are
> visually impaired. It doesn't matter whether you live in a large city or
> small town. However, it's much harder when you live in a small town. I
> don't
> currently, however I did for 4 years, population 1217... Tough sledding
> for
> sure. However, even living in a larger city has its transpertation
> challenges. I've often found in my 20 years in radio doing news reporting.
> That in most cities if you live on a good bus line you also live on a high
> crime line. It's just the way that it is. I'd suggest you explain to your
> husband that you have to take rides where you can get them. Meaning that
> if
> it's him, it's him, if it's a friend a church member, it is what it is. If
> he has an issue with you taking rides with others, find out why this is
> some
> sort of an issue & come to a resolution on that issue. I currently live in
> a
> fairly large city but transpertation is still a rather large issue for me.
> &, it was even when I lived in much larger cities than this 1. I made it
> very clear to my current wife before we were married whilst we were still
> dating that I didn't want to or would not move out where I at least did
> not
> have access to a taxi cab service. I hate using them because of their
> expense however, I at least still want that option if I need it. I do not
> currently live exactly on a bus line however if I need to get to the bus
> line, it's relatively close down the street to get it & I'm very
> farmilular
> with the system itself & sit on the public transpertation board for the
> bus
> service. I also have access to the door to door service however, getting
> that in a pintch is about as painful as seeing the dentist for a root
> canal.
> Since I have to go to such things as City Councel meetings, court trials,
> press conferences, as part of my job. I'm always in need of some sort of
> transpertation & somehow I've always made it work. & in all actuallity, I
> rely very little on my sighted wife for such. I'd say the only thing I've
> relied & rely on her for transpertation for is the things which we do
> together such as going to eat, shopping, out, etc. I've just completed
> going
> back to school & whilst I was in school I did rely on her a little more
> than
> I had at other times. But, we've only been married 2.5 years currently. I
> also explained to her whilst we were dating & before we were married that
> I
> didn't want to rely strictly on her for transpertation. I made it very
> clear
> to her that I wasn't marrying her for her eyes, her car, etc. I let her
> know
> early on in our relationship that I needed to do as much for myself as I
> could & that if I needed her asistance with something that I'd let her
> know.
> &, I also let her know that if she needed my asistance with something to
> let
> me know. Always keep in mind that marriage is like playing a team sport.
> Find out what each of your strengths & weaknesses are & use them. In other
> words, pull the rope the same way. If you've not been married long,
> sometimes this takes some getting used to.
> As far as picking up goes. That'll never change, just get used to it best
> you can. They're used to living in a sighted world & you can't expect them
> to change totally here. You can ask for change & perhaps in time they will
> change some, but, don't sit around & wait on it. They're used to getting
> the
> salt out of the cabinet & putting it back where they want it to go, if it
> gets put back at all, &, you have to find it. Why it's a real good idea to
> mark things so that you know what it is... Or, just do like I do & don't
> eat
> salt... Yes, that was meant to be funny & I hope that it was taken as
> such...
> As far as bills go. Try to get as many of them paperless as you can. In
> other words, get as many of them online as you're able to so you then have
> access to them. That's what we do around here. I handle all of the bill
> pay
> & that's my choice. No, I didn't say that Kim doesn't put her money in to
> pay them. I just pay them either on line or by calling them in. By going
> as
> paperless as you can, that helps solve the issue with the mail. I get very
> little in the way of actual paper mail &, I'm perfectly fine with that...
> Should I get a piece of mail, she has no issue at all reading that to me.
> I'd say in the past year I've probably only gotten 5 pieces of paper mail
> in
> the mail. &, I'd say that if they didn't get read to me, that was their
> losse, not mine... But, most of what I need doesn't come in the mail, it
> comes in an email so I can sit down and either read it or if it's just a
> notification of the fact that the bill is ready, I can go to the site &
> read
> it.
> As far as checks go. We don't use them unless we absolutly have to. We do
> as
> much on line as we can & both have our paychecks direct depossited in to
> our
> checking accounts & move them around as we need to. This insures that
> checks
> don't get lost, fall in the wrong hands, etc.
> As far as a credit card goes. Ask him to read you the numbers from all of
> the cards that either both of you or you or he have & either write them
> down
> on an app which you have on like an iPhone if you have such or in notepad,
> etc on your computer. We have my debit card, her debit card & our debit
> card
> which of course has different numbers on each one of them. We also have
> paypal master cards for both of our paypal accounts. So, I've written all
> of
> those numbers down so that I have access to them at any time that I want.
> I
> personally use evernote so I have access to this information whether I'm
> on
> my computer at home, work, my iPhone, etc. I've also taken down such
> information and stored it in this evernote such as bank account numbers as
> we both have separate checking accounts as well as a joint checking
> account.
> Her SSN number, her drivers license number, the medication that she takes,
> her insurance number, allergies, medical issues, and much much more. &,
> since she also uses evernote, she's done the same for me. Not only does
> this
> give us access to each others information for handling bills, it also
> gives
> us access to that information should we need it in an emergency, one of us
> becomes incapacitated , etc. One of the things which we've done as we both
> have access to a notebook which is what evernote calls folders. &, we add
> things that we need to make the other aware of if we've not sat down &
> talked about it, such as doctors appointments, work schedule changes, a
> certain bill paid on a certain day, something needed at the store, what
> types of light bulbs go in the light bar in the bathroom, etc. Most of
> these
> things do get talked about. However, we'll still put them down so as not
> to
> forget things which happens when you're pushing 40 as I'm doing... &,
> she's
> already pushed over it... &, we both make it a regular habbit to check our
> joint notebook. Technoligy is your friend here. Put it to good use when &
> where you can. It sounds like to me that you're in the process of learning
> some of this technoligy type stuff as well as braille. Once you get a
> better
> handle on those things getting some organization going should be a bit
> easier for you to get a handle on. Such as marking things, getting things
> written down so that you have access to them, getting your bills on the
> computer, etc.
> If he's not willing to read things to you or has some sort of issue
> helping
> you get this sort of organization going. I'm afraid you've an issue that
> this list can't help you solve.
> Again, in closing, I'd suggest you & he really sit down & have a come to
> whatever meetin'. I'm not sure how long you've been married but one thing
> I'd say that I've learned over my many years on this here earth is that
> marriage is kind of like running a business at times. Sometimes you've
> just
> gotta sit down & have staff meetings, throw it all out on the table &
> figure
> it out. In other words, talk, talk & talk some more. I'm also not sure how
> old you & he are but I've also found out that as I age some of this does
> become a bit easier as the other person ages with you. If I can be of any
> further assistance to you, please feel free to write me off list at
> newsandtraffic at aol.com I'd also like to apologize to all for the length of
> this email. But, I hope that perhaps some of my ideas & ways of handling
> things will serve to help others as well & perhaps I'll even find ideas
> that
> work better for me in my work flow as well.
> Sean Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mari Hunziker" <marihunziker at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 23:00
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
>
>
> HI Ericka,
>
> I can totally relate. I am legally blind, low to high partical depending
> on
> the day as well married to a sighted man. We have been married for 15 and
> a
> half years and it has taken us a very long time to figure it out. I'd even
> say we are still learning how to deal with it each day. I too live in a
> small town in Texas with no transportation. I must rely on neighbors,
> friends, church members or my husband. He was in school fro the last 8
> years - gone from 7am till about 11pm. I had to find the courage to ask
> someone for a ride. He just graduated in December and he is available a
> little more to help drive me around to get errands done. I've learned that
> I don't ever get to do what I want to do. Now that we have kids their
> needs
> come first. Grocery shopping, clothes, shoe, school supply shopping and
> then anything else that needs to get done. I have learned to plan and that
> actually took a while to develop since I am not a very organized person
> when it comes to meal planning. But my friends from church turned me onto
> a
> great monthly planner that does all the work for you. You just follow the
> steps and viola a sensational meal is ready in minutes. I have attached
> it
> here for you and anyone on the list to take and copy. Take a look I think
> its great. It provides a great example of what to do if you want to change
> up the recipes to. Its called Month of Menus!. About the blind and sighted
> thing. There is a Department of Blind Services in your state.
> http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/blind/ There are several links with
> information on Adjustment skills, Adaptive Equipment, Blindness Education,
> Rehabilitation Teaching Services, Resources and Information, etc. Take a
> look at the link above and call to get some assistance. It will make a
> huge
> difference. Also, I am happy to talk or email off list. Let me know if
> you'd like my info and if you'd like to chat off line. Good luck and God
> Bless. Life is challenging, but we are all here to help each other through
> it.
> Thanks,
> Mari Hunziker
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Ericka J. Short
> <ericka.short at att.net>wrote:
>
>> I know we usually talk about computers, or philosophy here, but I think
>> this is an important topic. I just wondered what kind of things people
>> have
>> done to make their sighted spouse understand the disability thing. The
>> biggest part of things for us is that we have horrible transit here in
>> Kenosha and so it?s difficult to independently travel alone. My husband
>> just doesn?t know what to do about this. I take rides with friends or
>> people from church at times, but some things I want to ride with my
>> husband
>> to together. He either feels like he should be my only transportation
>> or
>> not at all. It?s driving me batty! Another really big issue is the fact
>> I
>> need things organized (not necessarily good at that however) to be more
>> independent. If he?s going to be all male and dump everything in piles
>> all over the house for me to trip over every once in a while, then he
>> can?t
>> get mad at me for a bill not getting paid, a lost check or his the credit
>> card. Mine you there is no may to read a credit card number on a cctv.
>> I just can?t do it. He seems to think he should ?know? how to handle
>> it
>> and dosent realize that some people have vision that doesn?t stay
>> stable. Being a partial it is really difficult to explain. Some days I
>> can see better than others for example.
>>
>> I use my cane lots of the time outside the house and sometimes at church.
>> Once I learn the set up of a place I don[?t have to ask any more
>> questions
>> usually than the average sighted person. I can?t read print or use a
>> monocular for a lot of outside things or indoors either for that matter.
>> I
>> do use strong reading glasses a lot. I am learning braille but I?ve
>> been
>> a print user all l my life with minimal computer skills and even less
>> income Help! I feel like I?m in the twilight zone of sight as it is and
>> can see why he?d be frustrated. I am too!
>>
>> Ericka
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>
>
> --
> *Have A Blessed Day!
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:27:49 -0400
> From: Daniel Garcia <dangarcia3 at hotmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Learning Jaws
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> You ask how we learn JAWS. In my case I learned it at the Training Center
> for the Blind in my state.
>
> You can download the Demo Version and install the DAISY Training Modules
> in
> your computer. You can listen to these modules either in FS Reader or you
> can copy them into a USB stick and play them on an NLS device if you have
> one. FS Reader is installed with JAWS; it is a program with which you can
> listen to the training modules on your PC.
>
> I have never used Window Eyes so I don't know if the commands are similar
> to
> JAWS and how much of a learning curbe you'll have. But my guess is that
> once
> you learn one screen reader it is easy to learn another one, in the same
> way
> that once you learn a language it is easy to learn another. For instance,
> it
> was quite easy for me to learn NVDA on my own at home after having used
> JAWS
> for a few months and also being frustrated with the demo version.
>
> HTH
>
> Daniel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
> Wolfe
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:57 AM
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Blindtlk] Learning Jaws
>
> Dear NFB Talk members,
>
>
> How did all of you learn jaws screen reader? I ask this cause
> apparently
> to obtain federal employment that you have to learn this crutial screen
> reader application to be able to work with them. I currently use
> window-eyes
> from GW-Micro and unfortunately Rehab as it was then in 2002-2005 that
> they
> didn't inform me about this risk.
> Anyways, I don't have the patients of the fourty minute demo and
> Vocational
> Rehabilitation isn't suseptable to the idea of buying me it so am at a
> crossroads on this issue. I'll continue pressing on Jaws to be purchased
> just don't know how best to learn it either freedomscientific.com
> tutorials
> or a planned study somewhere like the Lousiana school for eight months
> that
> is a long time or what. Thanks on your opinions on what to consider cause
> I
> really badly want employment.
>
>
> your fellow liberal,
> Peter
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
> cum laude Auburn University
> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
> Peter Q Wolfe
> "Stand up for your rights"
> Bob Marley
>
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>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:34:12 -0400
> From: Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Learning Jaws
> Message-ID: <6E8D03F1-3796-4600-A393-8C850EA97F55 at gmail.com>
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>
> I originally got JAWS via a friend, and knew only that it would help me
> use the computer without sight. I didn't know anything about
> rehabilitation. I just started playing around on the computer using the
> screenreader. I had a lot of motivation because the computer was my only
> connection to the world during the day when I was alone and had no one to
> take me anywhere. I would spend hours working on learning basic hotkeys
> and how to check my email. I used the tutorials available through the
> screenreader, and over time got better and better. After about two years,
> I was recommended to the state rehabilitation center, but when they tested
> my computer skills, they found I needed very little training in that area.
> I know that I an something of an exception. I taught myself the Braille
> alphabet before going to the center. But with the right amount of
> motivation and the right tools, you might be able to teach yourself the
> screenreader. Just be patient with yourself.
> My two cents,
> jewel
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear NFB Talk members,
>>
>>
>> How did all of you learn jaws screen reader? I ask this cause
>> apparently to obtain federal employment that you have to learn this
>> crutial screen reader application to be able to work with them. I
>> currently use window-eyes from GW-Micro and unfortunately Rehab as it
>> was then in 2002-2005 that they didn't inform me about this risk.
>> Anyways, I don't have the patients of the fourty minute demo and
>> Vocational Rehabilitation isn't suseptable to the idea of buying me it
>> so am at a crossroads on this issue. I'll continue pressing on Jaws to
>> be purchased just don't know how best to learn it either
>> freedomscientific.com tutorials or a planned study somewhere like the
>> Lousiana school for eight months that is a long time or what. Thanks
>> on your opinions on what to consider cause I really badly want
>> employment.
>>
>>
>> your fellow liberal,
>> Peter
>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>> cum laude Auburn University
>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
>> Peter Q Wolfe
>> "Stand up for your rights"
>> Bob Marley
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:42:15 -0400
> From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Talk Mailing List'" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
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>
> You said it all man.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean Paul
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:08 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
>
> Heyya Ericka:
> I am currently on my second marriage, both of my wives are & have been
> sighted. I'll say that the reason that my first marriage didn't work,
> probably could be blamed on the fact that she & I married much to young &
> that both of us could be blamed for much which happened in the 14 years of
> marriage that followed. In other words. I'm not saying it's because I
> couldn't see & she could or she just didn't understand me, what a visually
> impaired person goes through, or, I couldn't understand the sighted world,
> etc. I'd say neither of us could understand the other & it had nothing to
> do
>
> with sight or not. Then children came & we tried to make it work for those
> children as long as we could until we both figured out that we were doing
> the children more worse by staying together rather than moving on. I'll
> say
> that in my many years of dating both before & between marriages, I've only
> dated 1 visually impaired young lady. &, that relationship was short
> lived.
> That wasn't a conscious decision that I made or didn't make, it was the
> way
> that things went for me. Even going to a blind school & dating whilst in
> highschool, it was always this way for me. I think the major issue here is
> a
>
> communication issue. Sounds like to me that both of you need to sit down &
> talk this out. Tell him how you feel & listen to how he feels. I'll say
> this. Both of my wives have been mostly understanding about most things.
> Of
> course, they're more than glad to let me clean, do dishes, laundry, etc.
> Yes, transpertation is & will always be an issue for those of us who are
> visually impaired. It doesn't matter whether you live in a large city or
> small town. However, it's much harder when you live in a small town. I
> don't
>
> currently, however I did for 4 years, population 1217... Tough sledding
> for
> sure. However, even living in a larger city has its transpertation
> challenges. I've often found in my 20 years in radio doing news reporting.
> That in most cities if you live on a good bus line you also live on a high
> crime line. It's just the way that it is. I'd suggest you explain to your
> husband that you have to take rides where you can get them. Meaning that
> if
> it's him, it's him, if it's a friend a church member, it is what it is. If
> he has an issue with you taking rides with others, find out why this is
> some
>
> sort of an issue & come to a resolution on that issue. I currently live in
> a
>
> fairly large city but transpertation is still a rather large issue for me.
> &, it was even when I lived in much larger cities than this 1. I made it
> very clear to my current wife before we were married whilst we were still
> dating that I didn't want to or would not move out where I at least did
> not
> have access to a taxi cab service. I hate using them because of their
> expense however, I at least still want that option if I need it. I do not
> currently live exactly on a bus line however if I need to get to the bus
> line, it's relatively close down the street to get it & I'm very
> farmilular
> with the system itself & sit on the public transpertation board for the
> bus
> service. I also have access to the door to door service however, getting
> that in a pintch is about as painful as seeing the dentist for a root
> canal.
>
> Since I have to go to such things as City Councel meetings, court trials,
> press conferences, as part of my job. I'm always in need of some sort of
> transpertation & somehow I've always made it work. & in all actuallity, I
> rely very little on my sighted wife for such. I'd say the only thing I've
> relied & rely on her for transpertation for is the things which we do
> together such as going to eat, shopping, out, etc. I've just completed
> going
>
> back to school & whilst I was in school I did rely on her a little more
> than
>
> I had at other times. But, we've only been married 2.5 years currently. I
> also explained to her whilst we were dating & before we were married that
> I
> didn't want to rely strictly on her for transpertation. I made it very
> clear
>
> to her that I wasn't marrying her for her eyes, her car, etc. I let her
> know
>
> early on in our relationship that I needed to do as much for myself as I
> could & that if I needed her asistance with something that I'd let her
> know.
>
> &, I also let her know that if she needed my asistance with something to
> let
>
> me know. Always keep in mind that marriage is like playing a team sport.
> Find out what each of your strengths & weaknesses are & use them. In other
> words, pull the rope the same way. If you've not been married long,
> sometimes this takes some getting used to.
> As far as picking up goes. That'll never change, just get used to it best
> you can. They're used to living in a sighted world & you can't expect them
> to change totally here. You can ask for change & perhaps in time they will
> change some, but, don't sit around & wait on it. They're used to getting
> the
>
> salt out of the cabinet & putting it back where they want it to go, if it
> gets put back at all, &, you have to find it. Why it's a real good idea to
> mark things so that you know what it is... Or, just do like I do & don't
> eat
>
> salt... Yes, that was meant to be funny & I hope that it was taken as
> such...
> As far as bills go. Try to get as many of them paperless as you can. In
> other words, get as many of them online as you're able to so you then have
> access to them. That's what we do around here. I handle all of the bill
> pay
> & that's my choice. No, I didn't say that Kim doesn't put her money in to
> pay them. I just pay them either on line or by calling them in. By going
> as
> paperless as you can, that helps solve the issue with the mail. I get very
> little in the way of actual paper mail &, I'm perfectly fine with that...
> Should I get a piece of mail, she has no issue at all reading that to me.
> I'd say in the past year I've probably only gotten 5 pieces of paper mail
> in
>
> the mail. &, I'd say that if they didn't get read to me, that was their
> losse, not mine... But, most of what I need doesn't come in the mail, it
> comes in an email so I can sit down and either read it or if it's just a
> notification of the fact that the bill is ready, I can go to the site &
> read
>
> it.
> As far as checks go. We don't use them unless we absolutly have to. We do
> as
>
> much on line as we can & both have our paychecks direct depossited in to
> our
>
> checking accounts & move them around as we need to. This insures that
> checks
>
> don't get lost, fall in the wrong hands, etc.
> As far as a credit card goes. Ask him to read you the numbers from all of
> the cards that either both of you or you or he have & either write them
> down
>
> on an app which you have on like an iPhone if you have such or in notepad,
> etc on your computer. We have my debit card, her debit card & our debit
> card
>
> which of course has different numbers on each one of them. We also have
> paypal master cards for both of our paypal accounts. So, I've written all
> of
>
> those numbers down so that I have access to them at any time that I want.
> I
> personally use evernote so I have access to this information whether I'm
> on
> my computer at home, work, my iPhone, etc. I've also taken down such
> information and stored it in this evernote such as bank account numbers as
> we both have separate checking accounts as well as a joint checking
> account.
>
> Her SSN number, her drivers license number, the medication that she takes,
> her insurance number, allergies, medical issues, and much much more. &,
> since she also uses evernote, she's done the same for me. Not only does
> this
>
> give us access to each others information for handling bills, it also
> gives
> us access to that information should we need it in an emergency, one of us
> becomes incapacitated , etc. One of the things which we've done as we both
> have access to a notebook which is what evernote calls folders. &, we add
> things that we need to make the other aware of if we've not sat down &
> talked about it, such as doctors appointments, work schedule changes, a
> certain bill paid on a certain day, something needed at the store, what
> types of light bulbs go in the light bar in the bathroom, etc. Most of
> these
>
> things do get talked about. However, we'll still put them down so as not
> to
> forget things which happens when you're pushing 40 as I'm doing... &,
> she's
> already pushed over it... &, we both make it a regular habbit to check our
> joint notebook. Technoligy is your friend here. Put it to good use when &
> where you can. It sounds like to me that you're in the process of learning
> some of this technoligy type stuff as well as braille. Once you get a
> better
>
> handle on those things getting some organization going should be a bit
> easier for you to get a handle on. Such as marking things, getting things
> written down so that you have access to them, getting your bills on the
> computer, etc.
> If he's not willing to read things to you or has some sort of issue
> helping
> you get this sort of organization going. I'm afraid you've an issue that
> this list can't help you solve.
> Again, in closing, I'd suggest you & he really sit down & have a come to
> whatever meetin'. I'm not sure how long you've been married but one thing
> I'd say that I've learned over my many years on this here earth is that
> marriage is kind of like running a business at times. Sometimes you've
> just
> gotta sit down & have staff meetings, throw it all out on the table &
> figure
>
> it out. In other words, talk, talk & talk some more. I'm also not sure how
> old you & he are but I've also found out that as I age some of this does
> become a bit easier as the other person ages with you. If I can be of any
> further assistance to you, please feel free to write me off list at
> newsandtraffic at aol.com I'd also like to apologize to all for the length of
> this email. But, I hope that perhaps some of my ideas & ways of handling
> things will serve to help others as well & perhaps I'll even find ideas
> that
>
> work better for me in my work flow as well.
> Sean Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mari Hunziker" <marihunziker at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 23:00
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] visually impaired married to a sighted
>
>
> HI Ericka,
>
> I can totally relate. I am legally blind, low to high partical depending
> on
> the day as well married to a sighted man. We have been married for 15 and
> a
> half years and it has taken us a very long time to figure it out. I'd even
> say we are still learning how to deal with it each day. I too live in a
> small town in Texas with no transportation. I must rely on neighbors,
> friends, church members or my husband. He was in school fro the last 8
> years - gone from 7am till about 11pm. I had to find the courage to ask
> someone for a ride. He just graduated in December and he is available a
> little more to help drive me around to get errands done. I've learned that
> I don't ever get to do what I want to do. Now that we have kids their
> needs
> come first. Grocery shopping, clothes, shoe, school supply shopping and
> then anything else that needs to get done. I have learned to plan and that
> actually took a while to develop since I am not a very organized person
> when it comes to meal planning. But my friends from church turned me onto
> a
> great monthly planner that does all the work for you. You just follow the
> steps and viola a sensational meal is ready in minutes. I have attached
> it
> here for you and anyone on the list to take and copy. Take a look I think
> its great. It provides a great example of what to do if you want to change
> up the recipes to. Its called Month of Menus!. About the blind and sighted
> thing. There is a Department of Blind Services in your state.
> http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/blind/ There are several links with
> information on Adjustment skills, Adaptive Equipment, Blindness Education,
> Rehabilitation Teaching Services, Resources and Information, etc. Take a
> look at the link above and call to get some assistance. It will make a
> huge
> difference. Also, I am happy to talk or email off list. Let me know if
> you'd like my info and if you'd like to chat off line. Good luck and God
> Bless. Life is challenging, but we are all here to help each other through
> it.
> Thanks,
> Mari Hunziker
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Ericka J. Short
> <ericka.short at att.net>wrote:
>
>> I know we usually talk about computers, or philosophy here, but I think
>> this is an important topic. I just wondered what kind of things people
>> have
>> done to make their sighted spouse understand the disability thing. The
>> biggest part of things for us is that we have horrible transit here in
>> Kenosha and so it's difficult to independently travel alone. My husband
>> just doesn't know what to do about this. I take rides with friends or
>> people from church at times, but some things I want to ride with my
>> husband
>> to together. He either feels like he should be my only transportation
>> or
>> not at all. It's driving me batty! Another really big issue is the fact
>> I
>> need things organized (not necessarily good at that however) to be more
>> independent. If he's going to be all male and dump everything in piles
>> all over the house for me to trip over every once in a while, then he
> can't
>> get mad at me for a bill not getting paid, a lost check or his the credit
>> card. Mine you there is no may to read a credit card number on a cctv.
>> I just can't do it. He seems to think he should "know" how to handle
>> it
>> and dosent realize that some people have vision that doesn't stay
>> stable. Being a partial it is really difficult to explain. Some days I
>> can see better than others for example.
>>
>> I use my cane lots of the time outside the house and sometimes at church.
>> Once I learn the set up of a place I don['t have to ask any more
>> questions
>> usually than the average sighted person. I can't read print or use a
>> monocular for a lot of outside things or indoors either for that matter.
>> I
>> do use strong reading glasses a lot. I am learning braille but I"ve
>> been
>> a print user all l my life with minimal computer skills and even less
>> income Help! I feel like I'm in the twilight zone of sight as it is and
>> can see why he'd be frustrated. I am too!
>>
>> Ericka
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