[Blindtlk] Training with screen readers conundrum

Fri Mar 22 05:40:08 UTC 2013

What's wrong with medical research. Hell, at some point, I want to be able
to see if possible.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Wolfe
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:37 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Training with screen readers conundrum

Bryan,

    What is wrong with bringing up medical research? I don't understand the
connatation to me that it gives me hope even if I don't see the end result
of it. I don't see the controvercies of taboos of anything on online forums
and all.

On 3/22/13, Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> hi,
>
> oh man, you opened another can of worms there.
> you may have been better off to spew a five minute string of swear 
> words instead of mentioning medical research.
> Bryan Schulz
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Wolfe" <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Training with screen readers conundrum
>
>
>> David,
>>
>>
>>    The irony David is thtat I picked poli sci cause of the job 
>> security with the federal government for disabled workers. I truly 
>> wanted to be a computer scientist but since how that I didn't know 
>> nemeth code that I didn't pursue that field. I keep telling myself 
>> with the University of Miami NEI research that perhaps within five or 
>> more years that my vision could return, then I can pursue a field in 
>> the STEM fields. I personally hate the social sciences cause there is 
>> no real benchmarks so everyone disagrees on opinions not facts as 
>> much. So, I'm stuck with this degree like lots of normal students 
>> cause wanting job security not cause that I'd like it. Lastly, I'm 
>> not the best communicater just that I have a passion for counseling 
>> and for the time being that would be nice to do.
>>
>>
>>    Anyone have any ideas on a poli sci doing counseling in the 
>> government? I'm thinking of financial aid advisor at a college or 
>> something. Perhaps I can do this cause the chief financial advisor at 
>> my university had a ph.d in historyr and theology degree not finance 
>> at all. I really would like to work with a domestic battery shelter, 
>> child abuse victims or financial management. I'd appreciate any ideas 
>> cause not sure of a general scope of what to do. Thanks for pointing 
>> out the obvious cause that is causing barriers in how to think aboutt 
>> professional life post-college. By the way, wish that more blind 
>> people would do more internships in their sophomore, junior and 
>> senior years cause this more than academics helps more than academics by
far.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>>
>> On 3/22/13, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>> Peter, you need to decide what it is that you want to do, then 
>>> figure out how a blind guy can do it.  You are approaching it from 
>>> -- what  job can a blind guy do and what jobs do you have from a 
>>> blind guy.  If you get something you probably won't be happy because 
>>> it wasn't what you want to do.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 09:12 AM 3/21/2013, you wrote:
>>>>Ray and others,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Thank you for replying to my message on this issue. The problem 
>>>>Ray is that I don't have any idea of what I'll be doing with a 
>>>>bachelors of arts in political science with the federal government.
>>>>sure I know of what a poli sci professional does just not what I can 
>>>>do being blind and all is able to do at work. I've been to the NFB 
>>>>subdomains and profesional bios and AFB's Mentor connect and talked 
>>>>to political scientists who are blind just not at my level of under 
>>>>graduate experience. Some are either devoid of under graduate 
>>>>experience with graduate work experience or just of another time or 
>>>>place or finally transfered to other skill sets entirely into my 
>>>>field. I guess this work experience could shine some light on what I 
>>>>could do with my degree just seems kind of bleak at this point. Any 
>>>>ideas from you guys would be really cool!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks Ray and all,
>>>>Peter
>>>>p.s: I own a I-Phone 4s and might transfer personally to Apple just 
>>>>for work its pc
>>>>
>>>>On 3/21/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> > You are way over thinking the issue here.  Like Dave and other 
>>>> > people have said, you can think it to death and never really find 
>>>> > a
>>>> solution.  Here's my
>>>> > advice.  Stop it.  then, ask yourself what you most want or need
>>>> to do.  You
>>>> > will find this narrows it down pretty fast.  Now, once you have 
>>>> > that, find out what tools will best meet your needs.  For some, 
>>>> > it's windows-for others, like me, it's the Mac.  For still 
>>>> > others, neither will
>>>> do.  You will
>>>> > never find fully comprehenceive tutorials for everything all laid 
>>>> > out for you in one place.  At least, I don't think so.  Forget 
>>>> > being spoon-fed everything.  It ain't gonna happen.  So, take the 
>>>> > advice I gave
>>>> you to start
>>>> > with above and see where that takes you.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for 
>>>> > the blind built-in!
>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mar 21, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Dear NFB Talk Members,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    Would I be better off to better familarize myself with my 
>>>> >> existing screen reader Window-Eyes or learn what is necessary 
>>>> >> for entry level for federal liberal arts career track e.g. Jaws 
>>>> >> instead? I'm always puzzling on tutorials of my former screen 
>>>> >> reader cause they are partial or completely devoid of adaquate 
>>>> >> detail examples to professions with endorsements or whatever for 
>>>> >> proper context. I know that Internal Revenue Service or Social 
>>>> >> Security like the Department of Defense use the CAP office that 
>>>> >> usually recommends Jaws screen reader so logic says to go with 
>>>> >> it instead of existing technology.
>>>> >> Maybe I should just focus purely on Jaws from scratch on their 
>>>> >> tutorials at a state rehabilitation center or individually, then 
>>>> >> focus on existing screen reader Window-Eyes or what would you 
>>>> >> recommend in this situation?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    I know this sounds like I'm over thinking the situation just 
>>>> >> that I've been dealing with this for years on this problem. I 
>>>> >> swerar one of the things that I hate being blind is that too 
>>>> >> much emphasis is on what assistive technology can do not what 
>>>> >> can't do. I'd prefer a comprehensive report or tutorial on all 
>>>> >> the things sighted individuals can do and what we can't being 
>>>> >> blind. Simple as a former sighted person that I'd appreciate 
>>>> >> this view much more than this muddy waters approach that just 
>>>> >> confuses the daylights out of everything for me.
>>>> >> I
>>>> >> also tire of the Federations dream-like imagination that blind 
>>>> >> folks can do everything cause simply this isn't true like in 
>>>> >> programming that isn't true anymore than they cannot do anything.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    Thanks for any and all advice on this subject cause I'm 
>>>> >> thoroughly confused on what to do. I tire so much just want to 
>>>> >> quit cause of being discouraged on the list in some ways. Your 
>>>> >> approaches of encouragement aren't what I'm accustomed to on my 
>>>> >> fragile self-esteem cause that is something blind people like me 
>>>> >> are in low supply of at the moment. I'm schedule for a three 
>>>> >> month job in a few months in town for temporary work experience 
>>>> >> so just want a job. I just don't know how best to go about it 
>>>> >> that is it. Since how I wasn't born blind that my patience is 
>>>> >> much more thinner in this technical jargon or way of thinking 
>>>> >> than you are accustomed to being blind your whole life or 
>>>> >> whatever. Thank you for understanding how I feel and coming from 
>>>> >> my prospective on this subject.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thank you,
>>>> >> Peter Q wolfe, BA
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>> cum laude Auburn University
>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
>> Peter Q Wolfe
>> "Stand up for your rights"
>> Bob Marley
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Cordially,
Peter Q Wolfe, BA
cum laude Auburn University
e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
"If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
Peter Q Wolfe
"Stand up for your rights"
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