[Blindtlk] Training with screen readers conundrum

Sat Mar 23 05:37:05 UTC 2013

Bryan,


    What is wrong with bringing up medical research? I don't
understand the connatation to me that it gives me hope even if I don't
see the end result of it. I don't see the controvercies of taboos of
anything on online forums and all.

On 3/22/13, Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> hi,
>
> oh man, you opened another can of worms there.
> you may have been better off to spew a five minute string of swear words
> instead of mentioning medical research.
> Bryan Schulz
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Wolfe" <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Training with screen readers conundrum
>
>
>> David,
>>
>>
>>    The irony David is thtat I picked poli sci cause of the job
>> security with the federal government for disabled workers. I truly
>> wanted to be a computer scientist but since how that I didn't know
>> nemeth code that I didn't pursue that field. I keep telling myself
>> with the University of Miami NEI research that perhaps within five or
>> more years that my vision could return, then I can pursue a field in
>> the STEM fields. I personally hate the social sciences cause there is
>> no real benchmarks so everyone disagrees on opinions not facts as
>> much. So, I'm stuck with this degree like lots of normal students
>> cause wanting job security not cause that I'd like it. Lastly, I'm not
>> the best communicater just that I have a passion for counseling and
>> for the time being that would be nice to do.
>>
>>
>>    Anyone have any ideas on a poli sci doing counseling in the
>> government? I'm thinking of financial aid advisor at a college or
>> something. Perhaps I can do this cause the chief financial advisor at
>> my university had a ph.d in historyr and theology degree not finance
>> at all. I really would like to work with a domestic battery shelter,
>> child abuse victims or financial management. I'd appreciate any ideas
>> cause not sure of a general scope of what to do. Thanks for pointing
>> out the obvious cause that is causing barriers in how to think aboutt
>> professional life post-college. By the way, wish that more blind
>> people would do more internships in their sophomore, junior and senior
>> years cause this more than academics helps more than academics by far.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>>
>> On 3/22/13, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>> Peter, you need to decide what it is that you want to do, then figure
>>> out how a blind guy can do it.  You are approaching it from --
>>> what  job can a blind guy do and what jobs do you have from a blind
>>> guy.  If you get something you probably won't be happy because it
>>> wasn't what you want to do.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> At 09:12 AM 3/21/2013, you wrote:
>>>>Ray and others,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Thank you for replying to my message on this issue. The problem
>>>>Ray is that I don't have any idea of what I'll be doing with a
>>>>bachelors of arts in political science with the federal government.
>>>>sure I know of what a poli sci professional does just not what I can
>>>>do being blind and all is able to do at work. I've been to the NFB
>>>>subdomains and profesional bios and AFB's Mentor connect and talked to
>>>>political scientists who are blind just not at my level of under
>>>>graduate experience. Some are either devoid of under graduate
>>>>experience with graduate work experience or just of another time or
>>>>place or finally transfered to other skill sets entirely into my
>>>>field. I guess this work experience could shine some light on what I
>>>>could do with my degree just seems kind of bleak at this point. Any
>>>>ideas from you guys would be really cool!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks Ray and all,
>>>>Peter
>>>>p.s: I own a I-Phone 4s and might transfer personally to Apple just
>>>>for work its pc
>>>>
>>>>On 3/21/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> > You are way over thinking the issue here.  Like Dave and other people
>>>> > have
>>>> > said, you can think it to death and never really find a
>>>> solution.  Here's my
>>>> > advice.  Stop it.  then, ask yourself what you most want or need
>>>> to do.  You
>>>> > will find this narrows it down pretty fast.  Now, once you have that,
>>>> > find
>>>> > out what tools will best meet your needs.  For some, it's windows-for
>>>> > others, like me, it's the Mac.  For still others, neither will
>>>> do.  You will
>>>> > never find fully comprehenceive tutorials for everything all laid out
>>>> > for
>>>> > you in one place.  At least, I don't think so.  Forget being
>>>> > spoon-fed
>>>> > everything.  It ain't gonna happen.  So, take the advice I gave
>>>> you to start
>>>> > with above and see where that takes you.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
>>>> > blind
>>>> > built-in!
>>>> > Sincerely,
>>>> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mar 21, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Dear NFB Talk Members,
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    Would I be better off to better familarize myself with my
>>>> >> existing
>>>> >> screen reader Window-Eyes or learn what is necessary for entry level
>>>> >> for federal liberal arts career track e.g. Jaws instead? I'm always
>>>> >> puzzling on tutorials of my former screen reader cause they are
>>>> >> partial or completely devoid of adaquate detail examples to
>>>> >> professions with endorsements or whatever for proper context. I know
>>>> >> that Internal Revenue Service or Social Security like the Department
>>>> >> of Defense use the CAP office that usually recommends Jaws screen
>>>> >> reader so logic says to go with it instead of existing technology.
>>>> >> Maybe I should just focus purely on Jaws from scratch on their
>>>> >> tutorials at a state rehabilitation center or individually, then
>>>> >> focus
>>>> >> on existing screen reader Window-Eyes or what would you recommend in
>>>> >> this situation?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    I know this sounds like I'm over thinking the situation just that
>>>> >> I've been dealing with this for years on this problem. I swerar one
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> the things that I hate being blind is that too much emphasis is on
>>>> >> what assistive technology can do not what can't do. I'd prefer a
>>>> >> comprehensive report or tutorial on all the things sighted
>>>> >> individuals
>>>> >> can do and what we can't being blind. Simple as a former sighted
>>>> >> person that I'd appreciate this view much more than this muddy
>>>> >> waters
>>>> >> approach that just confuses the daylights out of everything for me.
>>>> >> I
>>>> >> also tire of the Federations dream-like imagination that blind folks
>>>> >> can do everything cause simply this isn't true like in programming
>>>> >> that isn't true anymore than they cannot do anything.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>    Thanks for any and all advice on this subject cause I'm
>>>> >> thoroughly
>>>> >> confused on what to do. I tire so much just want to quit cause of
>>>> >> being discouraged on the list in some ways. Your approaches of
>>>> >> encouragement aren't what I'm accustomed to on my fragile
>>>> >> self-esteem
>>>> >> cause that is something blind people like me are in low supply of at
>>>> >> the moment. I'm schedule for a three month job in a few months in
>>>> >> town
>>>> >> for temporary work experience so just want a job. I just don't know
>>>> >> how best to go about it that is it. Since how I wasn't born blind
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> my patience is much more thinner in this technical jargon or way of
>>>> >> thinking than you are accustomed to being blind your whole life or
>>>> >> whatever. Thank you for understanding how I feel and coming from my
>>>> >> prospective on this subject.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thank you,
>>>> >> Peter Q wolfe, BA
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>> cum laude Auburn University
>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
>> Peter Q Wolfe
>> "Stand up for your rights"
>> Bob Marley
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-- 
Cordially,
Peter Q Wolfe, BA
cum laude Auburn University
e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
"If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
Peter Q Wolfe
"Stand up for your rights"
Bob Marley