[Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or insult anyone

Sat Mar 30 18:46:50 UTC 2013

Moreover, it doesn't have anything to do with blindness, any more than
discussing shoes of men, women or horses has to do with blindness.

ENOUGH ALREADY!

Mike Freeman

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Constance
Canode
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:53 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
insult anyone

I am with you Gloria.  I would be happy to discuss my shoes off list with
any interested woman, but discussing it with a cross dresser creeps me out! 

Constance Canode 
Sent from my I-phone 

On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, "Gloria Whipple" <glowhi at centurylink.net>
wrote:

> Hi Cheryl,
> 
> Thanks so much for posting that.
> 
> I agree with you ho heartedly.
> 
> Gloria Whipple
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl
> echevarria
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:15
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
> insult anyone
> 
> Not being the moderator of the list just being a member of this division
and
> this is to be taken as someone caring for all here, and these 2 weeks are
> some of the holiest weeks of the year with both passover and easter, which
> just means we should be kind to each other not just this week but all the
> time.
> We have all tried to be honest and help Peter.
> Let us hope that Peter and those that might be reading this and think
either
> good or bad thoughts.
> We cannot make everyone happy what we post, I am the one always trying to
> post apologetic before I even say anything in regards on insulting anyone
> that doesn't know me personally.
> When we write something whether it is an e-mail or even talking on the
> phone, some people might take the person on the other end of the phone
being
> rude when they are just trying to be direct, that is 2 different things.
> So sometimes we have to read what is being said than the way we want it to
> come out.
> I know a famous NFB member Anil Lewis, who has been our National Rep here
in
> NY at our conventions one year it was in 2007 when he first came and I was
> one of the NY State 2007 Scholarship Winners.
> In one of his speeches, he was talking about New Yorkers, and he has heard
> New Yorkers are rude and obnoxious people.  He says we are totally the
> opposite, we give the shirts of our backs, and like Carl Jacobsen says we
> will even through in the shoes and socks if you need them as well.
> Anil has said over and over again. New Yorkers are rude, we are direct
> people and get to the point.
> So we should try to remember that, unless we know the person personally,
> then we should take what we write as help and not trying to insult or put
> people down.
> I myself tend to be extremely sensitive, but it also shows that I have a
> heart and it can be broken.
> Please be kind to one another.
> God bless and enjoy each other.
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel
> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>
Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatrave
> l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com2012 Norwegian Cruise Line
> University Advisory Board Member.
> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National Federation
of
> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
> http://www.NFBNY.org after Hurricane Sandy and other resources. Any
vacation
> package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must
be
> traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to
the
> affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families
> and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate
> as well.  You do not need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through
> us.
> 
> 
>> From: glowhi at centurylink.net
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:56:27 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
>> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> No one on these lists twisted your arm for being here. You are free to
> come
>> and go as you please.
>> 
>> Gloria Whipple
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
> Wolfe
>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 05:37
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
>> 
>> Ray,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    Is anybody requiring you to read any post? I don't see anything
>> that I've written that wouldn't be either ignored or not taken
>> personally at all. You want to talk about me being sensitive, yet your
>> more sensitive than me. Who are you to say that I'm about done
>> anyways? As far as I know your not even a moderator, but if they do
>> decide to kick me off go ahead. It really wouldn't bother me anyways
>> cause of the totalatarian like fascism on here that no rational person
>> would want to join anyways. Trying to have some fun and can't be
>> myself at all on blind list just horrid and opressive like Stalin.
>> 
>> 
>> bye and blocking you now Ray
>> 
>> On 3/30/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>> This looks like a message that's suppposed to be off list.  Just my
>>> opinion.
>>> 
>>> I think you're about done.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> blind
>>> built-in!
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Constance,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   What type of teddy bears do you own and what did you call them? I
>>>> own some teddy bears in order or significance of which I talk to them
>>>> is as follows: Pete the purple dragon, Princess Fluffy the big stuff
>>>> doll, John Deer the reindeer, Blue the blue bunny and Chip the
>>>> chimpanzee too! I do love talking and interacting with my dolls almost
>>>> on a daily basis as well and don't care what you all think either for
>>>> it! Where all have you traveled to with your husband and without him?
>>>> I've been to several locations in and outside of this country like The
>>>> Bahamas on a five day cruise march 2012 from Port Canaveral which is
>>>> no where near Orlando, Florida like they said it was.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   What is your opinion on gay marriage? I'll tell you guys something
>>>> that I've actually called in on C-Span in favor of gay marriage
>>>> myself. My grandma lives on a indian reservvation so I'm advocating
>>>> for myself and relating to minority opression. I don't understand why
>>>> people are against equal rights especially as one minority has aided
>>>> the other minority with it in kin. Some of the nices people are gays
>>>> that is from personal experience just seems wrong. I guess this is an
>>>> annoying thing as it relates to political machine today that nobody
>>>> can agree even on basic dignity anymore.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   By the way, what types of sports are you into or play? I'm curious
>>>> cause it seems that some sports are more accessible like baseball,
>>>> nascar or perhaps football than basketball. I used to be a forward
>>>> point guart as a sighted person and can't stand spectator sports
>>>> anymore. I'm more likely to listen to some soccer or vollyball or
>>>> something. Do you know what sport that I'm interested in now? I don't
>>>> know whether that I could do it or not but ballet? I am really into
>>>> yoga right now not sure whether that is a sport but doubt it. Anyways,
>>>> it shares the flexible positioning going on and I went shopping the
>>>> other day with a friend and say a few things in that sporting area.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> see ya,
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/30/13, Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> I love cooking, collecting teddybears, getting involved in liberal
>>>>> political
>>>>> issues.  I also enjoy reading, television, movies and music and of
>>>>> course
>>>>> technology and try to learn something new all the time  I love
> shopping
>>>>> and
>>>>> Amilda Marcos has nothing on me in the shoe department, lol  My
> husband
>>>>> and
>>>>> and I travel and spend time with friends when I can get off work.  I
> am
>>>>> a
>>>>> sports fanatic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Constance Canode
>>>>> Sent from my I-phone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear NFB members,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  What all hobbies do you guys individually like to do? I'm asking
>>>>>> cause I find myself with nothing to do till my counseling becomes
> more
>>>>>> affective and I get an update on my perscription as well. I like
>>>>>> history, political science, news, traveling, trying new cuisines,
>>>>>> agriculture, programming websites, talking, researching, reading, and
>>>>>> learning are just a few things that I enjoy. Believe it or not that
>>>>>> I've been traveling on train, boat, car, airplane and bus throughout
>>>>>> this country! Yes, I've even been on a cruise line with almost being
>>>>>> thrown off the cruise boat in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean that
>>>>>> was as I was blind too! So, its wrong that people think that blind
>>>>>> people can't do everything cause I've proven them wrong too on that
>>>>>> one as well. I'd appreciate any comments in a nonvile spirited way or
>>>>>> else just don't reply.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>>>>>> cum laude Auburn University
>>>>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>>>>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
> anything"
>>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe
>>>>>> "Stand up for your rights"
>>>>>> Bob Marley
>>>>>> 
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>>>> --
>>>> Cordially,
>>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>>>> cum laude Auburn University
>>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
>>>> Peter Q Wolfe
>>>> "Stand up for your rights"
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>> -- 
>> Cordially,
>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>> cum laude Auburn University
>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
>> Peter Q Wolfe
>> "Stand up for your rights"
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