[Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or insult anyone

Sat Mar 30 19:02:20 UTC 2013

I am leaving the list cause I fundamentally disagree with all of you.
I am disgusted with the level of apathy, vainity, hatred, bigotry,
hypocracy, discrimination, arrogance and malice shown towards me that
I'm never ever going to resign up for NFB-Talk ever again. I really
hope you all have the worse Easter cause of not helping in real need
is just unexcusable. Don't e-mail me off list nor talk about me from
this point onward.

Bye,
Peter
btw: I'll never be a NFB heartless person ever.

On 3/30/13, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
> Moreover, it doesn't have anything to do with blindness, any more than
> discussing shoes of men, women or horses has to do with blindness.
>
> ENOUGH ALREADY!
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Constance
> Canode
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:53 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
> insult anyone
>
> I am with you Gloria.  I would be happy to discuss my shoes off list with
> any interested woman, but discussing it with a cross dresser creeps me out!
>
>
> Constance Canode
> Sent from my I-phone
>
> On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, "Gloria Whipple" <glowhi at centurylink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cheryl,
>>
>> Thanks so much for posting that.
>>
>> I agree with you ho heartedly.
>>
>> Gloria Whipple
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl
>> echevarria
>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:15
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] How we write doesn't mean we are writing to hurt or
>> insult anyone
>>
>> Not being the moderator of the list just being a member of this division
> and
>> this is to be taken as someone caring for all here, and these 2 weeks are
>> some of the holiest weeks of the year with both passover and easter,
>> which
>> just means we should be kind to each other not just this week but all the
>> time.
>> We have all tried to be honest and help Peter.
>> Let us hope that Peter and those that might be reading this and think
> either
>> good or bad thoughts.
>> We cannot make everyone happy what we post, I am the one always trying to
>> post apologetic before I even say anything in regards on insulting anyone
>> that doesn't know me personally.
>> When we write something whether it is an e-mail or even talking on the
>> phone, some people might take the person on the other end of the phone
> being
>> rude when they are just trying to be direct, that is 2 different things.
>> So sometimes we have to read what is being said than the way we want it
>> to
>> come out.
>> I know a famous NFB member Anil Lewis, who has been our National Rep here
> in
>> NY at our conventions one year it was in 2007 when he first came and I
>> was
>> one of the NY State 2007 Scholarship Winners.
>> In one of his speeches, he was talking about New Yorkers, and he has
>> heard
>> New Yorkers are rude and obnoxious people.  He says we are totally the
>> opposite, we give the shirts of our backs, and like Carl Jacobsen says we
>> will even through in the shoes and socks if you need them as well.
>> Anil has said over and over again. New Yorkers are rude, we are direct
>> people and get to the point.
>> So we should try to remember that, unless we know the person personally,
>> then we should take what we write as help and not trying to insult or put
>> people down.
>> I myself tend to be extremely sensitive, but it also shows that I have a
>> heart and it can be broken.
>> Please be kind to one another.
>> God bless and enjoy each other.
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel
>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>>
> Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations@echevarriatrave
>> l.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com2012 Norwegian Cruise Line
>> University Advisory Board Member.
>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National Federation
> of
>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>> http://www.NFBNY.org after Hurricane Sandy and other resources. Any
> vacation
>> package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must
> be
>> traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to
> the
>> affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for
>> families
>> and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the
>> affiliate
>> as well.  You do not need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book
>> through
>> us.
>>
>>
>>> From: glowhi at centurylink.net
>>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:56:27 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> No one on these lists twisted your arm for being here. You are free to
>> come
>>> and go as you please.
>>>
>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
>> Wolfe
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 05:37
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Teddy Bears?
>>>
>>> Ray,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Is anybody requiring you to read any post? I don't see anything
>>> that I've written that wouldn't be either ignored or not taken
>>> personally at all. You want to talk about me being sensitive, yet your
>>> more sensitive than me. Who are you to say that I'm about done
>>> anyways? As far as I know your not even a moderator, but if they do
>>> decide to kick me off go ahead. It really wouldn't bother me anyways
>>> cause of the totalatarian like fascism on here that no rational person
>>> would want to join anyways. Trying to have some fun and can't be
>>> myself at all on blind list just horrid and opressive like Stalin.
>>>
>>>
>>> bye and blocking you now Ray
>>>
>>> On 3/30/13, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> This looks like a message that's suppposed to be off list.  Just my
>>>> opinion.
>>>>
>>>> I think you're about done.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
>> blind
>>>> built-in!
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Constance,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   What type of teddy bears do you own and what did you call them? I
>>>>> own some teddy bears in order or significance of which I talk to them
>>>>> is as follows: Pete the purple dragon, Princess Fluffy the big stuff
>>>>> doll, John Deer the reindeer, Blue the blue bunny and Chip the
>>>>> chimpanzee too! I do love talking and interacting with my dolls almost
>>>>> on a daily basis as well and don't care what you all think either for
>>>>> it! Where all have you traveled to with your husband and without him?
>>>>> I've been to several locations in and outside of this country like The
>>>>> Bahamas on a five day cruise march 2012 from Port Canaveral which is
>>>>> no where near Orlando, Florida like they said it was.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   What is your opinion on gay marriage? I'll tell you guys something
>>>>> that I've actually called in on C-Span in favor of gay marriage
>>>>> myself. My grandma lives on a indian reservvation so I'm advocating
>>>>> for myself and relating to minority opression. I don't understand why
>>>>> people are against equal rights especially as one minority has aided
>>>>> the other minority with it in kin. Some of the nices people are gays
>>>>> that is from personal experience just seems wrong. I guess this is an
>>>>> annoying thing as it relates to political machine today that nobody
>>>>> can agree even on basic dignity anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   By the way, what types of sports are you into or play? I'm curious
>>>>> cause it seems that some sports are more accessible like baseball,
>>>>> nascar or perhaps football than basketball. I used to be a forward
>>>>> point guart as a sighted person and can't stand spectator sports
>>>>> anymore. I'm more likely to listen to some soccer or vollyball or
>>>>> something. Do you know what sport that I'm interested in now? I don't
>>>>> know whether that I could do it or not but ballet? I am really into
>>>>> yoga right now not sure whether that is a sport but doubt it. Anyways,
>>>>> it shares the flexible positioning going on and I went shopping the
>>>>> other day with a friend and say a few things in that sporting area.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> see ya,
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/30/13, Constance Canode <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>> I love cooking, collecting teddybears, getting involved in liberal
>>>>>> political
>>>>>> issues.  I also enjoy reading, television, movies and music and of
>>>>>> course
>>>>>> technology and try to learn something new all the time  I love
>> shopping
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Amilda Marcos has nothing on me in the shoe department, lol  My
>> husband
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> and I travel and spend time with friends when I can get off work.  I
>> am
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> sports fanatic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Constance Canode
>>>>>> Sent from my I-phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Peter Wolfe <yogabare13 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear NFB members,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  What all hobbies do you guys individually like to do? I'm asking
>>>>>>> cause I find myself with nothing to do till my counseling becomes
>> more
>>>>>>> affective and I get an update on my perscription as well. I like
>>>>>>> history, political science, news, traveling, trying new cuisines,
>>>>>>> agriculture, programming websites, talking, researching, reading,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> learning are just a few things that I enjoy. Believe it or not that
>>>>>>> I've been traveling on train, boat, car, airplane and bus throughout
>>>>>>> this country! Yes, I've even been on a cruise line with almost being
>>>>>>> thrown off the cruise boat in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean that
>>>>>>> was as I was blind too! So, its wrong that people think that blind
>>>>>>> people can't do everything cause I've proven them wrong too on that
>>>>>>> one as well. I'd appreciate any comments in a nonvile spirited way
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> else just don't reply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>>>>>>> cum laude Auburn University
>>>>>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
>> anything"
>>>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe
>>>>>>> "Stand up for your rights"
>>>>>>> Bob Marley
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>>>>> cum laude Auburn University
>>>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
>>>>> "If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for
>>>>> anything"
>>>>> Peter Q Wolfe
>>>>> "Stand up for your rights"
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>>> Cordially,
>>> Peter Q Wolfe, BA
>>> cum laude Auburn University
>>> e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
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-- 
Cordially,
Peter Q Wolfe, BA
cum laude Auburn University
e-mail: yogabare13 at gmail.com
"If you don't stand up for something your willing to fall for anything"
Peter Q Wolfe
"Stand up for your rights"
Bob Marley