[Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
Carly Mihalakis
carlymih at comcast.net
Mon Jun 30 17:11:54 UTC 2014
Good morning, Peter, in all his eloquence,
Couldn't have built us such a compelling and thought provoking
argument myself! Yet the fact remains that, I wouldn't want my
eyesight! And, I like how you point out Jesus's wanting all people, a
real Socialist. people ought to have adopted in practice not on the
plane of the rhetorical, Jesus love of everyone !
, including their imperfections. Furthermore, I am one who says
often that the occurrence of perfection itself must be a flawed state
of being since, as far as I know, perfect is not readily
represented in nature so, it isn't something I know I would wanna be.
I am content with my ocular holes, damaged brain, flat, prematurely
arthritic feet in all their natural wonder. Perfection leaves nothing
to the imagination and, like hope, if there is no imagination, there
is not a damned thing. What do people think? Do you wanna be
"perfect?" 08:33 AM 6/30/2014, you wrote:
>Good morning everyone,
>
> Those who engage in this kind of prayer worship would do well to
> study the miracles of Jesus more closely. It shouldn't
> automatically be assumed that all blind people should receive their
> sight. One is tempted to ask "If being blind is such a terrible
> thing why would a loving God send us in to this World in this
> condition?" If you study the miracle of the blind man in John
> Chapter 9 you will observe that Jesus left himself options. The
> scripture says that "This man is blind that I may restore his
> sight?" No it says "This man is blind that the works of God may be
> manifest in him." Jesus could have done something completely
> unexpected to bless this man is some way. Although in the end he
> restored his sighted he could have thought it more important for
> this blind man to have greater independence although the Bible
> indicates that he already had a degree of independence. Since Jesus
> told him to wash in the Pool of Sailem after putting clay on his
> face it's clear that though primitive by today's standards this man
> was able to travel with a certain degree of independence. Since
> Jesus already knew something about this man's capabilities he could
> have given him the gift of being able to read by inspiring him to
> develop a form of Braille.
>
> The long story short it shouldn't automatically be assumed that
> all blind people desire to have their sight restored. Having both
> of us working is a far more important priority than receiving
> normal vision. Common sense would tell you that unemployment
> doesn't go away with sight restoration. There are far more sighted
> persons unemployed than blind persons simply by sheer numbers.
>
> What many Christians don't understand is that God can use us
> just as we are and that he could use them to help meet our needs.
> For example that individual that wants to lay their hands on you
> may be a company president. God could just as easily use them to
> provide jobs for blind individuals needing work. Countless blind
> individuals have become members of church choirs, preachers, and
> are involved in other areas of their faith communities. He can use
> us just as we are. And since God knows all things he knows that
> giving sight to all the blind is not always the answer. All the
> best for a blessed day and a great national convention.
>
>Peter Donahue
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Olivares via blindtlk"
><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>To: "Carly Mihalakis" <carlymih at comcast.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing
>List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
>
>
>>Carly,
>>Do you mean you like when people pray for you? Sorry, I was
>>confused by your message. :)
>>
>>God bless,
>>christine
>>On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk
>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Good afternoon, everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>It works for me simply, allowing others to build their safety nets
>>>around me as well as a fact that, I am lacking an ocular input.I
>>>don't mind swallowing all I think I am, and allowing this for, I
>>>know who and what I am.At 04:28 AM 6/29/2014, justin williams via
>>>blindtlk wrote:
>>>>I agree with you Mary. Granted, if someone desires prayer, than so be it,
>>>>that is their choice, but I personally don't much care for random prayers.
>>>>I've allowed people to do it before just to see what they would do. But
>>>>no, its not my thing.
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marion
>>>>Gwizdala via blindtlk
>>>>Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:18 AM
>>>>To: 'Carly Mihalakis'; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
>>>>
>>>>Car,
>>>> I will respectfully disagree! First of all, no one has the right to
>>>>touch me without my permission. Secondly, those who feel a need to pray for
>>>>me to be healed of my blindness is tantamount to someone wishing
>>>>to pray for
>>>>someone to heal them of their dark skin color. The underlying
>>>>judgement they
>>>>are making is that I am not a whole person because of my blindness, an
>>>>assumption I reject. In fact, I tell those wishing to pray for my healing
>>>>that I have already been healed of the myths and misconceptions that
>>>>blindness is a malady to be healed; therefore, I tell them, I will pray for
>>>>them to be healed of their ignorance and misconceptions. I also share with
>>>>them that my blindness is actually a source of healing for others, helping
>>>>those who are blind heal themselves of the same limitations I once placed
>>>>upon myself.
>>>>
>>>>Blessings!
>>>>Marion Gwizdala
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly
>>>>Mihalakis via blindtlk
>>>>Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:06 PM
>>>>To: Blind Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Unsolicited prayers
>>>>
>>>>Hi, Eric,
>>>>
>>>>Just know that, people's placing their hands on your eyes and
>>>>praying is not
>>>>so much about you, or your blindness,but about their spirituality. You said
>>>>yourself, you resented when others tried challenging your faith. Perhaps,
>>>>you extend the same acceptance as is your expectation of others?
>>>>Car
>>>> >Arielle, I have your mindset, as well. As I get older, my tolerance
>>>> >level shrinks. I'm 5-9, and people have even bad-mouthed me for not
>>>> >accepting my lack by not taking their help, wanting to become violent.
>>>> >And one person even criticized me for my faith in God, when I,
>>>>specifically, was praying
>>>> >for a new cane after it was broken. Two things are out-of-bounds,
>>>> >praying for my blindness because they feel sorry for me, and laying
>>>> >their hands on my eyes.
>>>> >
>>>> >Eric
>>>> >..
>>>> >
>>>> >..
>>>> >
>>>> >Eric from Los Angeles. Live life! Love community! Eric on Facebook:
>>>> >eric at pmpmail.com.
>>>> >
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