[Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works

Peter Donahue pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
Mon Sep 8 20:08:59 UTC 2014


Hello Mark and everyone,

    I'll also second that.

Peter Donahue


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From: "Mark Tardif via blindtlk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing List" 
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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works


> Hi Bryan,
>
> Actually, more than one person agrees with you.  I have never seen that 
> kind of clicking of the tongue as socially acceptable, even as a child, it 
> just wasn't.  Still isn't.
>
>
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Bryan Schulz via blindtlk
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 8:25 PM
> To: Judy Jones ; Blind Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works
>
> hi,
>
> thank you judy, at least one person agrees with me.
> Bryan Schulz
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Judy Jones via blindtlk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works
>
>
>> To my mind, the clicking required is not socially acceptable.  I'm a firm 
>> believer in object perception, though, and that it works.  Plus the fact, 
>> the tapping of a cane can substitute for clicking.  Just my opinion.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Chris Nusbaum via blindtlk
>> Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:49 PM
>> To: 'Larry Wayland' ; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works
>>
>> I don't get it, but I know people who have attained quite a bit of skill 
>> in
>> echolocation. According to Dan Kish, a personal friend and one of the 
>> people
>> who pioneered the concept, it's a learned skill and not a natural talent.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry
>> Wayland via blindtlk
>> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 11:22 PM
>> To: 'Bryan Schulz'; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Making a Difference, (Cont.): Bringing the right
>> attitude out
>>
>> Some of the clames I have heard about EchoLocation is, in my opinion, way
>> above the capability of the human ear.  This is probably going to be 
>> another
>> one of these false things we have to explain all the time along with not
>> having super hearing, identifying dollar bills, and colors  by touch.
>> Larry
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
>> Schulz via blindtlk
>> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 12:34 PM
>> To: Carly Mihalakis; Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Making a Difference, (Cont.): Bringing the right
>> attitude out
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> when sighted people didn't understand why you were clucking, did anyone 
>> ask
>> if you lay eggs?
>> even i have learned that it is better for someone to see you with a cane
>> instead of looking like a drunk!
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Christine Olivares" <rafael4490 at gmail.com>; "Blind Talk Mailing 
>> List"
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "Marsha" <marcatony at yahoo.com>; "Blind Talk 
>> Mailing
>> List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Eric Calhoun" <eric at pmpmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 9:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Making a Difference, (Cont.): Bringing the right
>> attitude out
>>
>>
>>> Good morning, Christine,
>>>
>>>         In elementary school although I am a total, I, too, never used
>>> a cane finding that my orientation of the schools lay-out, coupled
>>> with echolocation was enough to get me around. I bet you also have
>>> pretty refined echolocation?
>>> for today, Car
>>> impairment and don't always use a cane. As I have mentioned, I am from
>>> a small town born and raised. This means I am very familiar with my
>>> surroundings so I don't always use my cane. Judging someone because
>>> he/she is blind is ridiculous.
>>>
>>>>I think this whole thing of asking someone to move is awful unless
>>>>it's an emergency. I think we should never judge someone. How would
>>>>you like if someone didn't see your cane and said, "Oh, you're not
>>>>blind." Eric, would you like that? I don't think you would appreciate
>>>>being judged, assume this woman was blind. Not only that, but she is a
>> woman for Gosh sakes.
>>>>Where is the respect men should give women? Chivalry has gone right
>>>>out the window, but that's a discussion for another day.
>>>>
>>>>God bless,
>>>>Christine
>>>>On Sep 3, 2014, at 7:08 AM, Marsha via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > HI
>>>> > Since when does not having a cane mean that you aren't
>>>> blind.  Very very judgmental.
>>>> >
>>>> > Marsha
>>>> >
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