[Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works

Mon Sep 8 20:22:10 UTC 2014

Guys,

I would think a private little click with a blind person's tongue has 
to be more socially acceptable than a clicker which, I feel, is so 
obnoxious 01:08 PM 9/8/2014, Peter Donahue via blindtlk wrote:
>Hello Mark and everyone,
>
>    I'll also second that.
>
>Peter Donahue
>
>
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>To: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>; "Blind Talk Mailing 
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>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 1:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works
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>
>>Hi Bryan,
>>
>>Actually, more than one person agrees with you.  I have never seen 
>>that kind of clicking of the tongue as socially acceptable, even as 
>>a child, it just wasn't.  Still isn't.
>>
>>
>>
>>Mark Tardif
>>Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>>-----Original Message----- From: Bryan Schulz via blindtlk
>>Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 8:25 PM
>>To: Judy Jones ; Blind Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works
>>
>>hi,
>>
>>thank you judy, at least one person agrees with me.
>>Bryan Schulz
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Jones via blindtlk" 
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>>To: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:25 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works
>>
>>
>>>To my mind, the clicking required is not socially acceptable.  I'm 
>>>a firm believer in object perception, though, and that it 
>>>works.  Plus the fact, the tapping of a cane can substitute for 
>>>clicking.  Just my opinion.
>>>
>>>Judy
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message----- From: Chris Nusbaum via blindtlk
>>>Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:49 PM
>>>To: 'Larry Wayland' ; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>Subject: [Blindtlk] Echolocation: How it Works
>>>
>>>I don't get it, but I know people who have attained quite a bit of skill in
>>>echolocation. According to Dan Kish, a personal friend and one of the people
>>>who pioneered the concept, it's a learned skill and not a natural talent.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry
>>>Wayland via blindtlk
>>>Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 11:22 PM
>>>To: 'Bryan Schulz'; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Making a Difference, (Cont.): Bringing the right
>>>attitude out
>>>
>>>Some of the clames I have heard about EchoLocation is, in my opinion, way
>>>above the capability of the human ear.  This is probably going to be another
>>>one of these false things we have to explain all the time along with not
>>>having super hearing, identifying dollar bills, and colors  by touch.
>>>Larry
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
>>>Schulz via blindtlk
>>>Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 12:34 PM
>>>To: Carly Mihalakis; Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Making a Difference, (Cont.): Bringing the right
>>>attitude out
>>>
>>>hi,
>>>
>>>when sighted people didn't understand why you were clucking, did anyone ask
>>>if you lay eggs?
>>>even i have learned that it is better for someone to see you with a cane
>>>instead of looking like a drunk!
>>>Bryan Schulz
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>To: "Christine Olivares" <rafael4490 at gmail.com>; "Blind Talk Mailing List"
>>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "Marsha" <marcatony at yahoo.com>; "Blind Talk Mailing
>>>List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Cc: "Eric Calhoun" <eric at pmpmail.com>
>>>Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 9:06 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Making a Difference, (Cont.): Bringing the right
>>>attitude out
>>>
>>>
>>>>Good morning, Christine,
>>>>
>>>>         In elementary school although I am a total, I, too, never used
>>>>a cane finding that my orientation of the schools lay-out, coupled
>>>>with echolocation was enough to get me around. I bet you also have
>>>>pretty refined echolocation?
>>>>for today, Car
>>>>impairment and don't always use a cane. As I have mentioned, I am from
>>>>a small town born and raised. This means I am very familiar with my
>>>>surroundings so I don't always use my cane. Judging someone because
>>>>he/she is blind is ridiculous.
>>>>
>>>>>I think this whole thing of asking someone to move is awful unless
>>>>>it's an emergency. I think we should never judge someone. How would
>>>>>you like if someone didn't see your cane and said, "Oh, you're not
>>>>>blind." Eric, would you like that? I don't think you would appreciate
>>>>>being judged, assume this woman was blind. Not only that, but she is a
>>>woman for Gosh sakes.
>>>>>Where is the respect men should give women? Chivalry has gone right
>>>>>out the window, but that's a discussion for another day.
>>>>>
>>>>>God bless,
>>>>>Christine
>>>>>On Sep 3, 2014, at 7:08 AM, Marsha via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > HI
>>>>> > Since when does not having a cane mean that you aren't
>>>>>blind.  Very very judgmental.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Marsha
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