[Blindtlk] Loud Places

[Kevin]

On 4/4/2015 2:22 PM, Devin Prater via blindtlk wrote:
> Excuse me, but what is the pencil technique?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Ringlein, Ellen via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Robin,
>>
>> In a crowded area, it might also be helpful to use the pencil technique with your cane. Your cane does not extend out as far and is less likely to trip people. But you also can't move as fast, because you have less warning of obstacles in your path. I use this technique when I am moving in a crowd or trying to follow a line. Communicating with the people in front of you in line or asking where the end of the line is, are also good techniques. Getting directions to the cashier or food pickup area from the person taking your order is also helpful. I do this when I am in an unfamiliar fastfood place.
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Ellen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: robin.beautifullyblind at ymail.com [mailto:robin.beautifullyblind at ymail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 5:58 PM
>> To: Ringlein, Ellen
>> Cc: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Loud Places
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions. When some people see my white cane, they move out of my way, while others don't. I knew the layout of the store, and was going in the right direction. It was just the people who were the issue. Thanks again!
>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Ringlein, Ellen <ERinglein at nfb.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Robin,
>>>
>>> If you use a cane, you can also detect landmarks and obstacles with it. With a cane you wouldn't necessarily have to trail the wall, as you can detect where there is more open space and perhaps a path. You will also find tables and chairs and other obstacles and you can "look" with your cane where there is room to move around these. A sense of direction also helps.  And if a small child is in your path, than at least you would find him/her before you ran over them. But you should know that using a cane may not prevent the scenario you describe. That kind of stuff occasionally occurs, regardless of how skilled and confidently we move around in the world.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> Ellen
>>> Ellen
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of robin.beautifullyblind--- via blindtlk
>>> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 1:18 PM
>>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Loud Places
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>    I am in need of any suggestions about traveling in places where there is a lot of noise, and sound can't be relied on for clues. I was in Starbucks last week, and there was a lot of people. I trailed the wall from the cash register to the place where I needed to pick up my coffee. There was a little girl in my path, and I didn't realize it. Her mother got mad, and told her daughter to move. I want to avoid this from happening again. So, I am in need of some tips. Thank you in advance!
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I've always known it as the pencil grip.  You pull up your cane, 
shortening up a bit, and hold your cane with two fingers as if you're 
holding a pencil.


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