[Blindtlk] [Blindly] Just Venting!

[Judy Jones]

Can you call them back now and stay on top of your situation with the 
agency?

Example:

I'll pass your case onto so-and so.

Question:  When can I expect to hear back?

If they can't give you a date, call the next week, and put a reminder to do 
so on your calendar.

Also, at the end of your conversation, say something like, "Next steps: 
What are the next steps to follow?"   Also ask for a time-line, and if they 
can't give you one, you give them one.  For instance:  "Okay, I'll check 
back with you in three days."  Then put that reminder on your calendar to 
call them back on that date, and keep at it until you get results. 
Counselors and clients should work equally, but sometimes the client should 
work harder than the counselor, because client is buying into their own 
success.

Hope these ideas help you with a game plan.

Judy


-----Original Message----- 
From: Danielle Antoine via blindtlk
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 10:31 AM
To: Blind Talk Mailing List
Cc: Danielle Antoine
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [Blindly] Just Venting!

That should've read a contributing member of society not a cindy
contributing member of society.

Okay, thanks for clarity Cindy. Glad we're all on the same page.

Judy,I don't know We have NFBL, ABL, and Voc Rehab. I am pretty sure
Voc Rehab rules it although since they are the ones who usually fund
folks to go to the training centers. At least that has always been my
understanding. When I say they didn't pursue, she asked what I was
interested in and said she'd pass my case on to someone and they'd get
back to me and no one ever called back. I like the voacational school
option quite frankly I wish I had known that was an option from jump
for the same reasons you mention and am open to it but problem is I'd
have to move further into town and I'm pretty sure the options for me
at that school are very limited. I am not interested in electrician or
welding or mechanics and refrigeration for instance. Or, I'd have to
move to a bigger town 45 minutes away with 2-3 2-year colleges. I just
need to save up money  and get help with housing since this is NOT
usually an option. You know nobody wants to have you staying with them
for too long if you can't pay what they are asking. What I don't
understand is why I have to wait so damn long when some of my friends
only had SSI and had no time waiting for a housing voucher and got
into a house or apartment within a couple of months!

Chris Yeah okay. Somehow I had an Office 2013 that I had purchased but
couldn't find the card with the Product Key. If I didn't throw it out
I might have 2007. This is ridiculous. I don't know why we keep going
back and forth with accessiblility. Better when we could put a disk or
CD-ROM in and Go.

So continuing on. Not sure why all of my vent message didn't post.

So Anyway, I didnt know I WAS expecting. So I am looking at jungle
stuff but I didn't mention anything as I was not particularly sold on
that. I did find girl colors in that theme, butthat is not her
mother's style. I was looking for girly but in her mother's taste.

I mentioned to my mom about my plans to get an idea about space
restrictions, but nothing about a jungle theme or anything. Next thing
you know a week later bags of stuff start piling in for my niece
including jungle stuff. She bought that car seat I had in a zoo theme
too. Everything from the gear to her clothes and toys too. Some
borrowed, some new, some hand-me-downs, from Goodwil and everywhere.
It didn't take all that. I didn't need any help. How did she know I
had gotten as far as the jungle? And why did they contribute all
things my children were into and stuff I had bought for them? And I
certainly didn't need to be teased, mocked, and defeated like that.
This doesn't feel like honor, appreciation, celebration and blessing!

Why didn't she partner with me or ask if she could instead of asking
about in the community like that? Hear come Minnie and Mickey Mouse (I
had my first son's nursery done in that theme), zoo, farm, jungle (you
may as well say safari too cuz it's all the same), fairies (which my
only daughter loved), Disney Princess (she could've just done that),
flowers, butterflies, ladybugs (my daughter's favorite), Sesame
Street, Thomas the train (we used to collect engines and pieces as a
family), Cars and Cars 2 (which my youngest son liked), cats, bunnies,
dogs, pink and green (which are MY sorority colors), and just plain
neutral colored gear as well. They already get all the latest name
brand clothes and shoes as ssoon as it comes out. All her clothes look
like the types of clothes I bought for my daughter on down to the
little headbands. Eventually, my youngest sons umbrella stroller
showed up. How that is possible I don't know but what I do know is
that one afternoon I came home to find my husband had gone into the
attic and gotten all of their stuff down and called a cab to bring it
to the local homeless shelter. Nothing was said over hear when I
inquired about the stroller and car seat.

So I looked around to see what she didn't have, and bought a little
farm themed walker that she could push around which prompted more farm
toys showing up and hints about buying a bigger cow print car seat
which I *did not*. How did they know I looked at that too? I started
this journey on my Dell desktop, and continued on my Dell laptop. My
mom did have her older brother's big car seat in the attic.

I wanted to do that just to take the pressure off her and my mom
because she had moved around a lot since the birth of her son and
couldn't locate much of her stuff.  After all, my sister knew what she
was having. She's a girl, right? She wasn't supposed to get pregnant
after her son was born, right? She had a miscarriage, a stillborn, and
then her son. And she had not prepared. I am done with my bratty
spoiled niece though. The rest of the other 7 or 8 maybe them too.
That is what so hurtful! So many more babies while I was prevented on
every hand from preparing for mine, stressed, and pressured, and
denied. That is why I say me and my children have been murdered. I
never signed any papers to be sterilized in any way so not sure why
folks are acting like this is the end of my mothering career. Some
things were special to me and my other children and I wanted to pass
those on, and share with them while starting fresh with my taste and
ability.

Even stuff I had put on a registry I started for myself had been taken
for others. Amazon does not sell out of most things as soon as I put
it up there. What I didn't buy, I had planned to give as gifts later
on. Thanks for reading. But still let me know if a list of all those
patterns in one place would be helpful, and what's been your
experiences in this department?

Danielle.

On 5/31/15, Szostak, Christine via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> HI,
>   Probably not the best two, but both WordPad and NotePad are very basic,
> sometimes perhaps too basic. There is also OpenOffice. All of which I
> believe are free. Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. Hope that
> helps.
> Peace,
> Chris
>
> Dr. Christine M. Szostak
> Assistant Professor of Psychology
> Department of Social Sciences
> Shorter University
> Rome, Georgia
> szostak.1 at osu.edu
> cszostak at shorter.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindly [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> via blindly
> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 12:12 AM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Cc: Judy Jones
> Subject: Re: [Blindly] Just Venting!
>
> regarding your computer issues, Am guessing you have a PC, contact the
> Microsoft Accessibility line, and they may be able to help you.  Their
> number is (800) 936-5900.
>
> Regarding Cindy's message, I think she was trying to say to stay focused 
> on
> a goal.
>
> Judy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danielle Antoine via blindly
> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 8:43 PM
> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
> Cc: Danielle Antoine
> Subject: Re: [Blindly] Just Venting!
>
> Cindy what do you mean by I don't have to go after every little thing?
> I'm just trying to be responsible and be a contributing member of society.
> After all, the Bible says if a man (person) don't work, he don't eat. And
> yes I do go after opportunities, opportunities that will benefit me but 
> Not
> hurt anyone else. Why should I just sit still?
> That will only cause me to gain weight which I can't afford to do. I'll 
> try
> though I don't know what that will result  in but more frustration and
> disapproval and sadness from those in my ear and air space. I get tired of
> hearing yucca yucca yacka all damn day and being mocked constantly okay?
>
> Ray, Your points are well taken and for the record I never took offense 
> with
> any of your messages, everyone else's included. I just get tired of being
> suddenly and seemingly forcefully unfruitful.
>
> Chris, I like your suggestions very much. Do you know of a very simple 
> word
> processor. Because, I just bought Office 365 and went to install it just 
> now
> and my computer won't even allow me to enter the last 2 numbers of the
> Product  Key. Anyone know why this is so? As I stated I just fixed this
> laptop. Same thing happened with my Dell laptop when I tried to install 
> the
> Hot Spot card in-store and at-home. I am not that technical. Oh well, 
> peace
> to all else and good night.
>
> Danielle
>
>
>
> On 5/30/15, Ray Foret Jr via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hold on a second.  Pam is with the NFBL.  Please keep in mind I'm not
>> saying you necessarily need the adult program at the center.  I don't
>> know you:
>> so, can't tell.  as for Voc rehab, they and I fell out a long time ago
>> too:
>> so, you see, I personally do understand your feelings about that bunch.
>> Still, I offered what I did in the hope that perhaps Pam might know
>> personally of resources outside those channels.  Besides, she's a good
>> person to talk to and I suspect you could stand that about now.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>
>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>
>> Sent from my Mac,
>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>
>>> On May 30, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Danielle Antoine via blindtlk
>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So when you say agency for the blind I am assuming you mean Voc Rehab.
>>> Been there done that. I got a Bachelorthen was working on a Master's
>>> when it all fell apart. I could continue though after further review
>>> of the program I realized I was probably in the wrong program like
>>> there is a difference between M. Ed. and M.A. Anyway, I have
>>> forgotten why I chose that and what it actually is good for. Went
>>> back to them for another bachelor and also to buy some time to get
>>> myselftogether and work on paying some student loans but they didn't
>>> pursue. I could try the BEP program which my ex used to do and it
>>> seems everyone feels that is a good fit for me but it isn't and I
>>> fear yet another failure beyond my control. I would stay at
>>> Affiliated Blind of Louisiana (ABL) for that. I would be alright
>>> workingfor someone already in the program though since I had some
>>> experience before. How do I find that out thougheven though THAT IS NOT
>>> my cup of tea.
>>>
>>> I get the impression though that once more and again we are back to
>>> being led toward certain acceptable programs like BEP and VOC Rehab.
>>> Why does the agency do that and why do we have to go along with it?
>>> Of course, VR counseling is an option, but I know sighted folk
>>> definitely get hired in that role without a qualifying Masters
>>> degree. I got 5 on it I couldn't though. And yes, I been through the
>>> STEp program at LCB but don't know how to justify going through the 
>>> Adult
>>> Program.
>>>
>>> Thanks Everyone,
>>>
>>> Danielle
>>> P.S. And with all this constant hacking I'm experiencing, I am led to
>>> think someone might be in need of training but unable or more likely
>>> unwilling to go somewhere and doing something about me so it is
>>> easier to harass and shush me to cover up. I could be wrong though.
>>> Just my thoughtful quiet observation. That or I'm just the wrong
>>> target in a whole lot of confusion.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/30/15, Ray Foret Jr via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Danielle,
>>>>
>>>> Are you in Louisiana?  Perhaps as a first real step, you might want
>>>> to give Pam Alan a call.  You'll be calling the Louisiana Center for
>>>> the blind.
>>>> Call this number:
>>>> 800-234-4166
>>>>
>>>> I offer this in an effort to actually be substantively helpful.
>>>> Now, maybe you don't need the adult training program like what I
>>>> went through, but, perhaps Pam can better direct you to help on a
>>>> more effective basis.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>
>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>>>
>>>>> On May 30, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Danielle Antoine via blindtlk
>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> right on point Ray. My only other options are go to a shelter or
>>>>> try school again I don't know wwho could be in such need as to ruin
>>>>> one person's life in particular? I unfortunately have never lied to
>>>>> the government.I don't know how a person could trump their nees
>>>>> over innocent children. Young innocent and even a person's unborn
>>>>> children.
>>>>> How is that conscionable and all-around excusable?
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite frankly, I feel like me and my children have been, in effect,
>>>>> murdered! What's funny, fun, cool and all alright about that? The
>>>>> only reason I have written so poignantly hear is to save face for
>>>>> those who just might be innocent and frankly, I have no where else
>>>>> to find support since I am not involved in civil rights activism
>>>>> and I seem to get abandoned and attacked or silenced elsewhere and
>>>>> just to try and keep reasonably well I share in hope it REALLY WILL
>>>>> bring true, meaningful help for ME as well as shine light on an
>>>>> ongoing problem which I KNOW is drastically affecting others. Maybe
>>>>> someone WILL have the CORRECT solution to stop this madness.
>>>>>
>>>>> Danielle
>>>>> P.S Sad when it feels like there is no help in sight or available
>>>>> to you and you alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/30/15, Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I'll keep trying with the government help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/30/15, Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Mostly out here, if you don't drive your option is a cab if not
>>>>>>> family and friends. Pretty much everybody works around here and
>>>>>>> it's about
>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>> minutes to town so I am on my own. The places I have lived with
>>>>>>> family and friends since the divorce have been rural so
>>>>>>> transportation is always an issue. Even checking the papes most
>>>>>>> of the places available to rent appear to be rural and you need
>>>>>>> first month's rent and deposit. I could get that in a couple of
>>>>>>> monts or four time but then I have to have extra to sustain. Any
>>>>>>> ideas?I guess I'll keep trying w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/30/15, Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Continuing on. Excuse the typos and lack of punctuation the last
>>>>>>>> message. NVDa went somewhere else and was silent whenever I
>>>>>>>> would arrowup, down, left or right so couldn't correct. So what
>>>>>>>> I would need is continuous, dependable cash, support, my own
>>>>>>>> children tliving with me, fully functioning dependable
>>>>>>>> technology, and dependable transportation that wouldn't cost me
>>>>>>>> so much and a lack of negative interference and lies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Danielle
>>>>>>>> P.S I have beneifted from the government phone as well in the past.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> now still have a prepaid phone.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/30/15, Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Oh and thanks Ray. You know but it seems even everybody is  to
>>>>>>>>> the point of breaking How convenient. It is all a big act erm,
>>>>>>>>> race competition to see who can receive help or the most helpor
>>>>>>>>> and recognition or to get out of wrongdoing. You know like
>>>>>>>>> verybody wanna plead insanity toget out of making restitution
>>>>>>>>> for wrongdoing and pass the blame and responsibility to others
>>>>>>>>> no apologies necessary.
>>>>>>>>> That's
>>>>>>>>> what it all seems like to me. I am done leading with my heart!
>>>>>>>>> People
>>>>>>>>> are quick to take advantage that way. Peaople who really
>>>>>>>>> needhelp can't get it because somebody else who don't has beat
>>>>>>>>> them to the punch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Judy, the answer is no. I had a plan and was working towards
>>>>>>>>> independence again and that got shot to hell. I mean after I
>>>>>>>>> got on SSI, I applied for Food Stamps which I had until the
>>>>>>>>> courts gave custody to my ex. Then, instead of decreasing me
>>>>>>>>> they automatically cut me off.
>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, I had applied for, with the help of my sister and
>>>>>>>>> got a job substitute teaching but didn't have ransportation
>>>>>>>>> going back and forth, was living with another friend for a
>>>>>>>>> while but wsh suddenly acted like I was a burden before I ever
>>>>>>>>> got another call. I missed the first call because I had a
>>>>>>>>> prepaid phone and didn't have any minutes on the phone when the
>>>>>>>>> call came through. While living with that friend I got a list
>>>>>>>>> of low--income housing and went down the list for a second time
>>>>>>>>> and applied to all the apartments I could, but only got
>>>>>>>>> responses from one particular complex in my mother's name. I
>>>>>>>>> corrected the letter and told them yes I was interested and
>>>>>>>>> never heard from them again. Mind you I said second time
>>>>>>>>> because the first time I had done this when I had my kids with
>>>>>>>>> me and I also had gotten a housing voucher. I ended up losing
>>>>>>>>> my voucher because I had to move from my aunt's house since my
>>>>>>>>> ex would not follow the visitation rules and would pick up the
>>>>>>>>> children from school and drop them off periodically and my aunt
>>>>>>>>> became scared which lead to falling out. Now when I checked the
>>>>>>>>> last time the housing voucher list is closed as usual as it was
>>>>>>>>> in Baton rouge when I left. I have put in some applications at
>>>>>>>>> a nursing home here, a grocery store, the movie theater, and
>>>>>>>>> the school system as a bus assistant but haven't heard from
>>>>>>>>> them which I am not necessarily complaining about at this point
>>>>>>>>> because I have stiff joints and fatigue often but I don't have
>>>>>>>>> enough money saved up to travel everyday. My plan was to try
>>>>>>>>> and put an ad in the paper for a driver if I got called for
>>>>>>>>> interview I could do the bus assistant because they would be
>>>>>>>>> able to puck me up. I had an app for Teacher Assistant as we
>>>>>>>>> which would work with the bus but that was stolen twice. So, at
>>>>>>>>> this point I am broke and broken
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Danielle
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/30/15, Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Good morning, Danielle,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What a racket!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seems to me, you could be far too invested in, as I like to
>>>>>>>>>> think of them, have been within my own experience, those
>>>>>>>>>> animate paper weights every body seems so edgy over. What has
>>>>>>>>>> worked for me is to utilize the comput for all the things you
>>>>>>>>>> named I.E. getting travel instructions and relevant spellings,
>>>>>>>>>> restaurant menus E-mail and the like but for me, no social
>>>>>>>>>> media, no games, only cursory internet searches but I believe
>>>>>>>>>> people particularly blind people are duped into believing they
>>>>>>>>>> need all this shit when, if you just try letting the stuff you
>>>>>>>>>> don't absolutely need, such as social media, go until such
>>>>>>>>>> time that you come to terms with your relationship with the
>>>>>>>>>> role of tech within your personal experience?
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, this is what has worked for me, you might be like a
>>>>>>>>>> really dedicated social mediite?
>>>>>>>>>> Car
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 11 PM 5/29/2015, Judy Jones via blindtlk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> What would it take for you to get out on your own.  Have you
>>>>>>>>>>> developed a step by step plan?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Judy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Danielle Antoine via blindtlk
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Danielle Antoine
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Just Venting!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm alright but I have had it! I just wanna leave. No more
>>>>>>>>>>> games,
>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> more appeasements, no more peacekeeping efforts on my part, no
>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>> acting like it's all okay because it's not. Just wanna be on my
>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>>> ! I don't need help if it's not the way I need it! I'll be able
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> recover easier once I'm in charge of my own life in my own
>>>>>>>>>>> space.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alanna, yeah I know I have my own issues to resolve and that is
>>>>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> write albeit usually in my space. Problem is, all my spaces keep
>>>>>>>>>>> getting taken away with computers always never functioning
>>>>>>>>>>> properly
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> this way or that. Somebody is repeatedly breaking into my
>>>>>>>>>>> computers
>>>>>>>>>>> and everybody else act like either they don't know who it is and
>>>>>>>>>>> refuse to make them stop or report them, or it does NOT matter
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>> they all have Apple phones and Androids and don't seem to EVER
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> targeted. Frankly, I wwent to post brief ness on FB about it
>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> find FB is acting up and I can't post. The rest of my blind
>>>>>>>>>>> friends
>>>>>>>>>>> don't have these repeated computer problems and it is too the
>>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>> where Windows has even gotten restricted in some places like I
>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>> even access the start menu and I just paid $345 less than a
>>>>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>>>>> to fix this computer, $219 the month before to fix a desktop but
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> have no speech on it right now or place to set it up, and I have
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> more yet to go. I had to use MS Office on one that was zapped
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> suddenly couldn't get on the Internet after I just bought a
>>>>>>>>>>> wireless
>>>>>>>>>>> Hot Spot card. It wasn't accessible for me and luckily the
>>>>>>>>>>> company
>>>>>>>>>>> discontinued it for me. I thought once they switched providers
>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> hear all this would stop. Now I have to decide to buy another
>>>>>>>>>>> battery
>>>>>>>>>>> and charger for it or try to get Office Depot to put MS Office
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> this one, which I bought and is supposedly on that desktop. You
>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>> now it don't come on a CD-rom but a card with download
>>>>>>>>>>> instructions.
>>>>>>>>>>> Who can do much of anything without a word processor? This
>>>>>>>>>>> delays
>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> though and I lost months and months of work wich I won't be able
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> retrieve unless I spend money on a battery and charger for a
>>>>>>>>>>> dinosaur
>>>>>>>>>>> as they say which is only 8 years old but totally in working
>>>>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>>>> until........one fateful day.....today. They suddenl froze up
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>>>>>> black after I tried to make changes to NVDA. That's not
>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> $100 in transportation costs to drop off and retrieve them.
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> end up losing everything I have saved to the hard drives because
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> always an Optimize and Restore order. Makes me wonder if their
>>>>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> key of mine giving access to my computer out there. It all
>>>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>>>> once I divorced my ex and gradually got worse. Rather, he filed
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> divorce 5 years ago and made out like a bandit. That old you
>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>> prove it cause your blind bit. Not passing blame but I can't
>>>>>>>>>>> figure
>>>>>>>>>>> where this is originating and want it to stop! These are not fun
>>>>>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>>>>>> to be playing with me. I don't know how I could possibly be safe
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> being shut down. It's gambling. Why do I need a computer? Simply
>>>>>>>>>>> put,
>>>>>>>>>>> to function. Communicate with the outside world, to get
>>>>>>>>>>> information,
>>>>>>>>>>> to job hunt, read mail, pay bills, for entertainment as in
>>>>>>>>>>> plaing
>>>>>>>>>>> fun,
>>>>>>>>>>> free harmless games for worthless points, to learn, work, keep
>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> latest trends inside and outside of the blindness community, get
>>>>>>>>>>> addresses so I can plan my cab trips, look up spellings of
>>>>>>>>>>> certain
>>>>>>>>>>> words and anames, keep up with my children, shop, etc. It's just
>>>>>>>>>>> senseless violence and passive aggression. I do agree about the
>>>>>>>>>>> individual and family therapy but that likely will never
>>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>>> because black folk don't believe in getting counseling.
>>>>>>>>>>> Actually,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> was in therapy when I was in the city. Thanks for the prayers,
>>>>>>>>>>> hug
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> love.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Danielle
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/29/15, River Linda via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Danielle,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Big hug and love to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 29, 2015, Ray Foret Jr via blindtlk
>>>>>>>>>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Danielle, it sounds to me like you've had this huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pile-on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> building
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and building and building up for quite a while now.  Frankly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me like there are a number of unresolved issues between you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>> family:  but, the long and the short of it feels like this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally blind, and, your family, despite your best efforts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think of you as even a normal person but just some pitiful
>>>>>>>>>>>>> poor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> girl
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be looked after and pitied and felt sorry for and not let
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some sighted people feel this way too, believe it or not.  So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessarily a blindness thing:  but, in your case, and given
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> context
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your remarks, it sure sounds like that in your case, it might
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blindness
>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused.  It also seems to me that you haven't just sat there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> build up:  but rather, that you have made every effort after
>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a difference:  but now, most recently, something has happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused you either to snap or else feel like you want to.  Have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> figured
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out about right?  Danelle, I wish I had a specific answer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you say:  but, I suspect that some of the blind women on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to help you better with the specific items you list off.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> merely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enter here because I am concerned, and wanted to lend what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moral
>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can to a fellow blind person who, it seems to me, is on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> edge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV
>>>>>>>>>>>>> user!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> built-in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 29, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Danielle Antoine via blindtlk <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blindtlk at nfbnet.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just cannot stand it when somebody say you can do something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somebody else do it or just prevent you from doing so. Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's always what I'm doing. Like for instance, my brother and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sister
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't have jobs wasn't looking for jobs until I started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God Hallallujah, thank you Jesus, they both got jobs while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sitting at home. In fact, it cost me more because they have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transporation and drive whereas, I don't have those luxuries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im located it's really not feasible for me to work even if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimal health. Anyway, my sister followed through with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for her and my brother didn't and my mom allowed it; they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hired through someone else's efforts in the end. I hoe they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs this time! They both are lucky and have no problems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with minimal effort! I have a lot of time on my hands so can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few mmindless things that don't require me to think so hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much energy. So, why all this unnecessary stress and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aggravation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my blind parents, how do you go about picking baby gear on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost my babies oh about a couple of months ago and my other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> three children live with their father. but I had gotten the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a couple of friends prior to all this to document pattern
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and everytime I start I can never get very far do to computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breakage, stealing of software, hacking and such through no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fault
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my own. As we all know, our technology is expensive and can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be replaced in a day or so. Even whene we fix one thing such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop or desktop, we still need to install a screen reader,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS Office since it is now not standard and if you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software so it is not off the shelf ready to rock and roll. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSI only. Believe me, this has to be somebody sighted who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want this job if they had it but I am happy to do it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing this out of sheer frustration. Since my niece came
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adults in her life started buying everything with like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> characters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such when it would've made mor sense for them to buy colored
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like for real people! They can see things like, tangerine,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gold,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everest, purple, onyx, Paisley, Fuschia, Bromley, Go Green,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturn, Cowmooflage  and such like that. I mean, really what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean to a total who has never seen colors or seen them clear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their life? Those are just examples of pattern names And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can esily coordinate accordingly rather than snatching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything. My sister knew she was having  a girl and instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neutral stuff as well. what ever happened to commonsense,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> courtesy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consideration, feelings, and boundaries? My mom denied my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though so I hope she is happy with my loss on top of me being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to honor the visitation agreement with my children since she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have serious beef! I should also mention ther have been about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> babies in total born since she has and that is what so angers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more. Also, most of her things relate back to my own teenage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preteen's likes. In fact, my mom bought the exact same car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought for my first son with a zoo theme! I should say that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sister
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was in jail but she knew what she was having before she went
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did not prepare. So about a month before my niece's arrival I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at gear and stuff for her. I had planned to buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed since I had saved a little money up, to take the worry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and my mom who I was sure going fo likely get her and at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking about moving to where we are now with more space for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sisters kids. Of course, I was looking at sex appropriate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her from the diaper bag to the crib to a few toys and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> washcloths.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> figure when its coming out of someone else's pocket it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter thow much it cost since you didn't have nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, I wasn't expecting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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