[Blindtlk] Two questions about administerring medicine.
Christopher-Mark Gilland
clgilland07 at gmail.com
Fri May 22 02:31:48 UTC 2015
I totally agree.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Andrews via blindtlk" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Two questions about administerring medicine.
>I am not saying it couldn't be done, but why would we want too. People are
>in all different places in their lives ... some people have kids, some
>people have grown kids, some people are going to have kids, some people
>have experience with other people's kids etc. I for one want to set as few
>rules and requirements as possible!
>
> Dave
>
> At 09:11 PM 5/21/2015, you wrote:
>>Uh, maybe by verifying through other NFB members who know you personally?
>>
>>Chris.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews via blindtlk"
>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>Cc: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:02 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Two questions about administerring medicine.
>>
>>
>>>There is no requirement that you be a parent -- how would anyone know, or
>>>find out.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>At 08:18 PM 5/21/2015, you wrote:
>>>>The weird thing is, I can do it to myself all day long. I dono why
>>>>she's so insistant. I totally agree with you.
>>>>
>>>>I didn't join that other list you mentioned, as I myself don't have
>>>>kids, and I thought you had to be a parent to join.
>>>>
>>>>Chris.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Arielle Silverman via blindtlk"
>>>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Cc: "Arielle Silverman" <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:11 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Two questions about administerring medicine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Chris. There's another list on NFBNet called BlParent. You may want
>>>>>to post your questions there for feedback from blind parents and
>>>>>caregivers. For the oral med, if the child is cooperative, you could
>>>>>perhaps fill the spoon and hand it to her to swallow the contents,
>>>>>then have her hand the spoon back to you so you can verify she took
>>>>>the med. Or scoop into a cup as was suggested. As for injections, I
>>>>>don't know what alternative techniques blind people use to find the
>>>>>injection site. I know blind people give themselves shots so I imagine
>>>>>it is doable. However, I don't think giving a shot is part of the
>>>>>typical duties for babysitting, and if it makes you anxious, then I
>>>>>think it is perfectly reasonable to tell the mom you aren't
>>>>>comfortable. It has nothing to do with blindness but with your comfort
>>>>>around needles. I am needle phobic myself and would probably not be
>>>>>willing to give a shot to myself or someone else unless there was no
>>>>>other option. Especially not to a squirming screaming child.
>>>>>Arielle
>>>>>
>>>>>On 5/21/15, Diane Vlasoff via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>I raised 3children as My vision deteriorated. As to the first
>>>>>>question, I
>>>>>>got a teaspoon sized eyedropper from the pharmacist. No spills and a
>>>>>>full
>>>>>>dose of med. I have never given a shot but my aunts were both RNs. I
>>>>>>remember one of them telling me they first learned by injecting water
>>>>>>into
>>>>>>oranges. Practice seems a good thing. Then I am sure they used
>>>>>>normal
>>>>>>saliene and used each other as guinea pigs. Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Diane Vlasoff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 21, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via blindtlk
>>>>>><blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have two questions. Again, now, I'm the one who probably is askking
>>>>>>admittedly a very valid question, but yet a somewhat awquard question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I often have to babysit a little girl. She's the sweetest little
>>>>>>thing at
>>>>>>4 years old, but blesser heart, she has two medications she has to
>>>>>>take on a
>>>>>>regular basis. Usually, her mom gives them to her before leaving her
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the evening in my care, but the mom has expressed that she really
>>>>>>would like
>>>>>>for me to learn to do this myself for her. It's not a matter of her
>>>>>>being
>>>>>>lazy and not wanting to take care of her child. Don't even go there!
>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>just she is in her words, trying to prove to me that I can! do this,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>that just because I am blind, doesn't mean anything in context of the
>>>>>>action
>>>>>>at hand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, here's more specifically the deal. She has to be given a kitchen
>>>>>>spoon
>>>>>>sized doce of liquid medicine. I know it's usually the same principle
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>putting liquid on a spoon when cooking then putting it in your mixing
>>>>>>bowl
>>>>>>or whatever, but I cannot for the life of me find an easy way to do
>>>>>>this.
>>>>>>I'm always so frightened that I'm gonna miss and hit her eye, or
>>>>>>bopper on
>>>>>>the nose or worse when trying to get it in her mouth. She usually
>>>>>>does open
>>>>>>up, which is a plus. I don't think she really minds the taste, but
>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>just very hard for me, as I get really nurvous, and my hands start
>>>>>>trembling. I'm not so much scared of getting it in her mouth, as I am
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>spilling it off the spoon. Yeah, I could pour it in a little cup then
>>>>>>just
>>>>>>have her drink it that way, but then it makes it really really hard to
>>>>>>measure out the correct amount, and I'd be scared I'd give her too
>>>>>>much, or
>>>>>>too little.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The other med she has to take is much, and I do mean much much much
>>>>>>much!
>>>>>>more difficult. I do want some hints on the above, but here's the one
>>>>>>I'm
>>>>>>r'r'r'r'really! struggling with that I desperetly! could use some
>>>>>>blind tips
>>>>>>on. She also has to take a medication which is injected as a shot.
>>>>>>Poor
>>>>>>baby! And what makes it worse is, she's not exactly a very good sport
>>>>>>about
>>>>>>it either. To say she's really brave is bigger than the state of
>>>>>>Texas of a
>>>>>>lie. LOL! Let's just say, you'd better be wearing ear plugs or
>>>>>>cotton
>>>>>>balls if you have sensitive ears, as it's ear screeching! Anyway, the
>>>>>>thing
>>>>>>is, I don't just get scared the few times I've been asked to give it
>>>>>>to her,
>>>>>>but I just about pannick myself. I know, one would say to me, there's
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>first problem right there! Don't? pannick! The first time I start
>>>>>>that,
>>>>>>I'll make it more scarey for her, plus, I'll start doing dumb things.
>>>>>>The
>>>>>>mom has said for me to start by just taking a deep breath before I do
>>>>>>it,
>>>>>>but my biggest concern is, I can't feel the point of the needle when
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>goes in. Oh yeah, she screams bloody murder, which is usually an
>>>>>>indication
>>>>>>that I'm in, at which point, I push the plunger until it clicks, but
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>thing is, I can't see it go in, and being it's so sharp, I have
>>>>>>naturally a
>>>>>>really really heavy hand. I'm scared I'll jabber! Actually, a few
>>>>>>times, I
>>>>>>have made about a half inch cut on her arm where she wenced back
>>>>>>flinching
>>>>>>in pain, and therefore my hand slipped. I don't wanna grab her little
>>>>>>arm
>>>>>>too hard, as it's gonna hurt her already escrutiatingly as is, but
>>>>>>then, you
>>>>>>add my tight grip on top a that? No? thank you! We've tried having
>>>>>>her lie
>>>>>>down on her bed on her back, so that she can only resist but so much,
>>>>>>but it
>>>>>>still is very difficult. Further, I'm even just as much scared that
>>>>>>if I
>>>>>>feel where I'm about to stick her, for one, it won't be staril, and
>>>>>>for 2,
>>>>>>I'm just as much, if not more, frightened that I'll wind up
>>>>>>accidentally
>>>>>>sticking myself. Granted, I've not hit the plunger, so it's not like
>>>>>>I'd
>>>>>>get any of the medication, God forbid, but it still would hurt like a
>>>>>>son of
>>>>>>a gun!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, if any of you who're blind with absolutely no vision at all like
>>>>>>shapes,
>>>>>>colors, etc. have given an injection, especially even more so if it
>>>>>>was to a
>>>>>>little rugrat, how do you safely do this? The mom is really insistant
>>>>>>on,
>>>>>>you can do this, you just need to relax, and calm down. I just feel
>>>>>>I'm
>>>>>>always so tense, and hurky jerky when I do it. There's gotta be a
>>>>>>way!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris.
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