[Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identificationand Human behavior

Justin Williams justin.williams2 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 10 20:36:44 UTC 2016 

Yeap, I break things up into small bills as often as I can.
 Justin

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Get $10's at the bank then its easier to keep track.

Ericka Short
"What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."

 from my iPhone 6s

> On Aug 10, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk
<blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon, Judy,
> 
>        For me, there's nothing wrong with simply asking the cashier each
time cash is involved.
> CarAt 12:40 PM 3/7/2015, Judy Jones via blindtlk wrote:
>> I always fold my money at the counter, and does not take long at all.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Gary Wunder via blindtlk
>> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 3:11 PM
>> To: 'Chris Nusbaum' ; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money 
>> Identificationand Human behavior
>> 
>> Hello, Chris. A couple of easy comments: most blind people I know 
>> would not offer somebody a 50 if the purchase they were trying to 
>> make was for $16. If I make a purchase for seven dollars, I normally 
>> give someone a 10. If I make a purchase for 13, I give them 15 or 
>> maybe a 20. It is certainly easy to argue that we may not have bills 
>> that are close to our purchase price, but it is a lot easier to do 
>> than one might think. If I want to break a big bill, I often do it in 
>> a place I frequent or in a place where there is a good size line, and 
>> seldom do I just pocket the money. I don't think it is too much to 
>> ask the clerk to tell me what bills he is handing me. I think it may 
>> be too much to wait until you are in the line to find your app, bring it
up on the phone, and then test every bill.
>> 
>> It is not always an easy call to know when it is your right to hold 
>> up a line and when it is your responsibility to see that that line 
>> moves along. I don't think there is any one-size-fits-all answer for
these situations.
>> 
>> As for the comment about taking your iPhone out in dangerous places, 
>> I suspect that someone who wants to rob you doesn't need the visual 
>> prompting that you have devices of value on your person. How many 
>> people travel without a cellular phone? I remember being in a bus 
>> station once and being warned that letting people see that I had a 
>> cellular phone could be dangerous. I wonder how many of these 
>> situations are less likely to happen now that people know that most 
>> cellular phones have cameras and that you may be just as likely of 
>> being in a face time call as you are a voice call. No matter how you 
>> cut it, if somebody wants your iPhone, give it up. It is far less 
>> valuable than any injury you might suffer. You have insurance to 
>> assure its replacement. You do not have the same guarantee about your 
>> life or the ability to restore things that might be broken in an 
>> assault. It goes against the testosterone that flows in my bloodstream to
say this, but objects are only objects, and there are better fights to
fight.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Chris Nusbaum via blindtlk
>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:27 PM
>> To: 'Bob Hachey'; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identification 
>> and Human behavior
>> 
>> Bob and All,
>> 
>> What a fascinating video and ensuing discussion! As Arielle pointed 
>> out, it is likely that actual blind people getting ripped off by 
>> dishonest cashiers is more rare than the public makes it out to be. 
>> This is especially true considering the fact that most places in 
>> which money is transacted are public, so the unsuspecting blind 
>> person is likely to be "rescued" (I don't like using this term in 
>> this context, but it's the only one I can think of at the moment) 
>> from the scam by a concerned bystander. As some on this list have 
>> pointed out, however, this is not merely a hypothetical worst-case
scenario--it has happened to real blind people in the real world.
>> 
>> I for one have never been deliberately short-changed by anyone, 
>> though I have always been very conscientious about holding up the 
>> line behind me when transacting money. I have heard Dave's sentiments 
>> expressed by many in my personal life, both blind and sighted: Sort 
>> the money then and check its authenticity; don't worry about the line 
>> behind you. As I have improved my skill and speed in folding and 
>> organizing money in my wallet, I have progressed from stuffing change 
>> in my pocket and waiting to organize it until I'm home to folding and 
>> organizing the money while at the counter based on the information 
>> the clerk has given me. However, I have never been able to bring 
>> myself to check the accuracy of the clerk's information using a bill 
>> identifier while at the counter. As someone who uses the LookTell 
>> Money Reader app on my iPhone as my bill identifier of choice, I 
>> found myself on the few occasions on which I tried this method 
>> becoming more and more anxious about holding up the line as I pulled 
>> out my phone, found the app, opened it, lined up the camera and waited
for the feedback. I just felt like I was becoming way too much of an
inconvenience to my fellow shoppers.
>> This anxiety was further compounded when I tried this on a recent 
>> trip to Baltimore, only to be warned by a passing good Samaritan that 
>> thieves in the city would rip my iPhone out of my hand if they saw it 
>> out in a public place. Risk, danger, more risk, and more danger!
>> 
>> I don't know if there's a solution to this conundrum, but this 
>> constant choosing between the lesser of two evils is frustrating. I 
>> guess, like many other aspects of life, this is a matter of weighing 
>> the trade-offs. I am very concerned with not making myself an 
>> inconvenience, but at what point do I allow myself to sacrifice this 
>> anxiety in order to ensure that I have the correct change? The iPhone 
>> has opened up innumerable doors, including those which allow for 
>> greater access to otherwise inaccessible material, such as the Money 
>> Reader app for reading currency. However, those of us who live in or 
>> frequently travel to urban areas must always be wary of those who 
>> might want to steal our precious devices. And we must consider all 
>> this while videos like this one remind us that not all of the public, 
>> even those who are in the business of transacting money with 
>> customers, are as honest as we would wish they were. I have struggled
with these things for some time now, but have never vented my frustrations
to this list until this moment.
>> However, the video which Bob posted and the discussion which resulted 
>> have inspired me to do it. Has anyone else delbt with these issues? 
>> If so, I would very much appreciate hearing all thoughts on 
>> reconciling these contradictory risks. Thanks for reading my rant. 
>> <Smile>
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
>> Hachey via blindtlk
>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:49 AM
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identification and 
>> Human behavior
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Below my name, please find a link to a truly fascinating YouTube 
>> video. Note that the blind people and clerks depicted here are actors 
>> and that this is an experiment in human behavior. How will bystanders 
>> react when a blind person is shortchanged because he or she cannot 
>> identify US currency? While it is nice that we can get free money 
>> identifiers from the BEP, how likely are we to use them when we are 
>> handed change and people are waiting behind us in line?
>> 
>> Bob Hachey
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyyqH4j634>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyyqH4j634
>> 
>> 
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