[Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identificationand Human behavior

Ericka dotwriter1 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 10 20:34:57 UTC 2016 

Get $10's at the bank then its easier to keep track.

Ericka Short
"What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."

 from my iPhone 6s

> On Aug 10, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon, Judy,
> 
>        For me, there's nothing wrong with simply asking the cashier each time cash is involved.
> CarAt 12:40 PM 3/7/2015, Judy Jones via blindtlk wrote:
>> I always fold my money at the counter, and does not take long at all.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Gary Wunder via blindtlk
>> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 3:11 PM
>> To: 'Chris Nusbaum' ; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identificationand Human behavior
>> 
>> Hello, Chris. A couple of easy comments: most blind people I know would not
>> offer somebody a 50 if the purchase they were trying to make was for $16. If
>> I make a purchase for seven dollars, I normally give someone a 10. If I make
>> a purchase for 13, I give them 15 or maybe a 20. It is certainly easy to
>> argue that we may not have bills that are close to our purchase price, but
>> it is a lot easier to do than one might think. If I want to break a big
>> bill, I often do it in a place I frequent or in a place where there is a
>> good size line, and seldom do I just pocket the money. I don't think it is
>> too much to ask the clerk to tell me what bills he is handing me. I think it
>> may be too much to wait until you are in the line to find your app, bring it
>> up on the phone, and then test every bill.
>> 
>> It is not always an easy call to know when it is your right to hold up a
>> line and when it is your responsibility to see that that line moves along. I
>> don't think there is any one-size-fits-all answer for these situations.
>> 
>> As for the comment about taking your iPhone out in dangerous places, I
>> suspect that someone who wants to rob you doesn't need the visual prompting
>> that you have devices of value on your person. How many people travel
>> without a cellular phone? I remember being in a bus station once and being
>> warned that letting people see that I had a cellular phone could be
>> dangerous. I wonder how many of these situations are less likely to happen
>> now that people know that most cellular phones have cameras and that you may
>> be just as likely of being in a face time call as you are a voice call. No
>> matter how you cut it, if somebody wants your iPhone, give it up. It is far
>> less valuable than any injury you might suffer. You have insurance to assure
>> its replacement. You do not have the same guarantee about your life or the
>> ability to restore things that might be broken in an assault. It goes
>> against the testosterone that flows in my bloodstream to say this, but
>> objects are only objects, and there are better fights to fight.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>> Nusbaum via blindtlk
>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:27 PM
>> To: 'Bob Hachey'; 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identification and
>> Human behavior
>> 
>> Bob and All,
>> 
>> What a fascinating video and ensuing discussion! As Arielle pointed out, it
>> is likely that actual blind people getting ripped off by dishonest cashiers
>> is more rare than the public makes it out to be. This is especially true
>> considering the fact that most places in which money is transacted are
>> public, so the unsuspecting blind person is likely to be "rescued" (I don't
>> like using this term in this context, but it's the only one I can think of
>> at the moment) from the scam by a concerned bystander. As some on this list
>> have pointed out, however, this is not merely a hypothetical worst-case
>> scenario--it has happened to real blind people in the real world.
>> 
>> I for one have never been deliberately short-changed by anyone, though I
>> have always been very conscientious about holding up the line behind me when
>> transacting money. I have heard Dave's sentiments expressed by many in my
>> personal life, both blind and sighted: Sort the money then and check its
>> authenticity; don't worry about the line behind you. As I have improved my
>> skill and speed in folding and organizing money in my wallet, I have
>> progressed from stuffing change in my pocket and waiting to organize it
>> until I'm home to folding and organizing the money while at the counter
>> based on the information the clerk has given me. However, I have never been
>> able to bring myself to check the accuracy of the clerk's information using
>> a bill identifier while at the counter. As someone who uses the LookTell
>> Money Reader app on my iPhone as my bill identifier of choice, I found
>> myself on the few occasions on which I tried this method becoming more and
>> more anxious about holding up the line as I pulled out my phone, found the
>> app, opened it, lined up the camera and waited for the feedback. I just felt
>> like I was becoming way too much of an inconvenience to my fellow shoppers.
>> This anxiety was further compounded when I tried this on a recent trip to
>> Baltimore, only to be warned by a passing good Samaritan that thieves in the
>> city would rip my iPhone out of my hand if they saw it out in a public
>> place. Risk, danger, more risk, and more danger!
>> 
>> I don't know if there's a solution to this conundrum, but this constant
>> choosing between the lesser of two evils is frustrating. I guess, like many
>> other aspects of life, this is a matter of weighing the trade-offs. I am
>> very concerned with not making myself an inconvenience, but at what point do
>> I allow myself to sacrifice this anxiety in order to ensure that I have the
>> correct change? The iPhone has opened up innumerable doors, including those
>> which allow for greater access to otherwise inaccessible material, such as
>> the Money Reader app for reading currency. However, those of us who live in
>> or frequently travel to urban areas must always be wary of those who might
>> want to steal our precious devices. And we must consider all this while
>> videos like this one remind us that not all of the public, even those who
>> are in the business of transacting money with customers, are as honest as we
>> would wish they were. I have struggled with these things for some time now,
>> but have never vented my frustrations to this list until this moment.
>> However, the video which Bob posted and the discussion which resulted have
>> inspired me to do it. Has anyone else delbt with these issues? If so, I
>> would very much appreciate hearing all thoughts on reconciling these
>> contradictory risks. Thanks for reading my rant. <Smile>
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
>> via blindtlk
>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:49 AM
>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Blindtlk] AT the Intersection of Money Identification and Human
>> behavior
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Below my name, please find a link to a truly fascinating YouTube video. Note
>> that the blind people and clerks depicted here are actors and that this is
>> an experiment in human behavior. How will bystanders react when a blind
>> person is shortchanged because he or she cannot identify US currency? While
>> it is nice that we can get free money identifiers from the BEP, how likely
>> are we to use them when we are handed change and people are waiting behind
>> us in line?
>> 
>> Bob Hachey
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyyqH4j634>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyyqH4j634
>> 
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