[Blindtlk] [Bltlk] UBER DRIVER FACES CRIMINAL CHARGES

Sat Jul 30 03:54:28 UTC 2016

Exactly what i think Mark.

Ericka Short
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> On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Mark Tardif via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I understand your point.  But I think it would be easier for all concerned if drivers were informed during the interview process that yes, there will be times when you will pick up passengers with guide dogs and other service animals and questioned as to whether that would be a problem for that driver.  And then, if the potential driver is offered a position, that that driver undergo rigorous training about how to handle such situations and how these service animals work in our culture.  I would find it interesting to hear some legal experts in this area of law, just to get a sense of how they would view this kind of conundrum.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message----- From: Justin Williams via blindtlk
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 6:31 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [Bltlk] UBER DRIVER FACES CRIMINAL CHARGES
> 
> We can if it violates the ADA.  Uber is a public private service.
> He can practice it all he wants too as long as he's willing to pay the fine
> and lose his job.
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> via blindtlk
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> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
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> 
> Unfortunately, there are certain religious groups that view dogs almost the
> way we would view rats in our culture.  I'm not sure what the solution is,
> because we can't really prohibit someone from practicing their religion,
> that might be seen as unconstitutional, but it does seem that this may be a
> way of making a living that some people who feel that way, whether on
> religious grounds or not, might not consider trying, because inevitably you
> will be asked to pick up people with guide dogs.  That's the nature of the
> beast, (pardon the terrible pun), and either you don't try for that kind of
> employment or serious cultural training needs to happen, showing that guide
> dogs are not only legal and important, but generally clean and well-behaved.
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chaim B. Segal via blindtlk
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 4:33 PM
> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: chaim B. Segal
> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] [Bltlk] UBER DRIVER FACES CRIMINAL CHARGES
> 
> Hey!
> 
> Wasn't there an official ruling handed down earlier this year that any
> driver who refused to transport a service animal would be kicked out of
> Uber?  Wasn't the NFB going to be testing things out and DC and elsewhere to
> be sure of compliance? I'm surprised this issue hasn't made it to 60
> __MINUTES yet. And, if this driver wants to stand behind herself, I don't
> notice she is putting up much of a fight-not that I care what she has to
> say..
> 
> I remember two incidents on __PEOPLE'S __COURT where cab drivers were taken
> to court for refusing to transport guide dogs. I only heard the first case
> all the way through. From what I remember, the Middle-Eastern cab driver
> insisted it was on account of religion, and Judge Wapner did not buy it.
> Even though he lost horribly, all the driver had to say to the commentator
> upon exiting was, "I guess he did not buy my story." I notice he did not
> bother to site why, according to his beliefs, it was supposedly not allowed.
> 
> Again, not that I think any excuse is valid, I notice that so far, I have
> not heard of any of these drivers really getting out and fighting for their
> own rights. Perhaps they realize underneath that they are being stupid.
> 
> Chaim
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ericka via bltlk  <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Annely Rose  <annely53r at yahoo.com>,Blind Talk Mailing List
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Monday, July 25, 2016 9:10 am
> Subject: Re: [Bltlk] UBER DRIVER FACES CRIMINAL CHARGES
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good question. Probably no training at all.
>> 
>> Ericka Short
>> "What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always
>> right."
>> 
>> from my iPhone 6s
>> 
>> > On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Annely Rose via bltlk
>> > <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > And there was another incident in Orlando, Florida last week with a
>> > Uber driver refusing a ride for a Lighthouse Central Florida
>> > employee and her dog who were taking some vision impaired kids on an
>> > outing.  A 10-year-old girl, who was on TV, had to witness these
>> > actions.  I believe the driver was suspended while being
>> > investigated. That's a second one in Orlando, Florida since the NFB
>> > convention.  Where is the training of these drivers?
>> >
>> > Annely
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > On Sun, 7/24/16, Jessica Reed via bltlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [Bltlk] UBER DRIVER FACES CRIMINAL CHARGES
>> > To: "Blind Talk Mailing List" <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Cc: "Jessica Reed" <jessicac.kostiw at gmail.com>,
>> > "david.andrews at nfbnet.org" <david.andrews at nfbnet.org>, "David Andrews"
>> > <dandrews at visi.com>
>> > Date: Sunday, July 24, 2016, 10:00 PM
>> >
>> > Fantastic! Please keep us
>> > updated!
>> >
>> > Sent from my
>> > iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Jul 24, 2016, at
>> > 9:20 PM, David Andrews via bltlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> NEWS RELEASE
>> >> FOR
>> > IMMEDIATE USE
>> >> FROM: Tennessee
>> > Association of Guide Dog Users
>> >> DATE:
>> > July 18, 2016
>> >> TO: All Media
>> >> RE: Criminal Case Against Uber Driver
>> >> CONTACT:
>> >> James
>> > Boehm
>> >> 901-483-1515
>> > secretary at nfb-tn.org
>> >>
>> >> UBER DRIVER FACES
>> > CRIMINAL CHARGES
>> > On April 28, 2016, James Boehm and his guide dog Shep were left
>> > stranded at an animal hospital in Murfreesboro, TN. An Uber driver
>> > defiantly squealed away, refusing to transport the guide dog team
>> > home.
>> >>
>> >> "I was distraught and infuriated all
>> > at once!" stated Mr. Boehm, who filed a police report with the
>> > Rutherford County sheriff's department. After an investigation, the
>> > state Attorney filed charges against Rolonda Douglas. The hearing is
>> > scheduled for August 9th,
>> > 2016 at 8:00 a.m. at the Rutherford County Judicial Building located
>> > at 20 North Public Square.
>> >>
>> >> "This case is so important because it
>> > sets a precedent for all Uber, Lyft, or other taxi drivers," says
>> > James Boehm.  "If they discriminate against a service animal user,
>> > the violators will be prosecuted."
>> >>
>> >> Members of the National Federation of the
>> > Blind of Tennessee and their guide dogs, along with other service
>> > dog users from around the state plan to attend the hearing to
>> > support the cause. "Such incidents occur far too often and we want
>> > to present a strongeaunited front in support of this case," says
>> > james Brown, president of the NFB of Tennessee. "We want to make a
>> > statement that such discrimination is not acceptable.
>> >
>> >> Not only does the Americans with
>> > Disabilities Act make it clear that disabled individuals have the
>> > right to be accompanied by a service dog, Tennessee statute 62.7.112
>> > strengthens the ADA by providing criminal penalties for such
>> > discrimination. As a Class C misdemeanor, violating the civil rights
>> > of a disabled person accompanied by a service dog is punishable by
>> > up to 30 days in jail and/or a fine of up to $50. (The entire text
>> > of the Tennessee statute accompanies this release.)
>> >> # # #
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> About the National
>> > Federation of the Blind
>> >>
>> >>           The National Federation of
>> > the Blind is the oldest and largest organization of the blind in the
>> > United States. The NFB knows that blindness is not the
>> > characteristic that defines you or your future.
>> > Every day we raise the expectations of blind people because low
>> > expectations are the obstacles between blind people and our dreams.
>> > You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds you
>> > back. The Federation provides scholarships to blind students;
>> > support for those who are blind or losing their eyesight; advocacy
>> > for the blind facing discrimination; and educational programs for
>> > the general public on topics of blindness. The NFB is not an
>> > organization that speaks on behalf of the blind; we are the blind
>> > speaking for ourselves.
>> >>
>> >> About NAGDU
>> >     The Tennessee Association of Guide Dog Users (TAGDU) is a strong
>> > and proud division of the National Association of Guide Dog Users.
>> > The National Association of Guide dog Users is the nation's leading
>> > membership organization for blind people who use guide dogs.  NAGDU
>> > is a strong and proud division of the National Federation of the
>> > Blind.
>> > NAGDU conducts public awareness campaigns on issues of guide dog
>> > use, provides advocacy support for guide dog handlers who face
>> > discrimination, supports sound policy and effective legislation to
>> > protect the rights of guide dog users, offers educational programs
>> > to school and civic organizations, and functions as an integral part
>> > of the National Federation of the Blind. For more information about
>> > the National Association of Guide Dog Users and to support their
>> > work, you can visit their website at
>> >>
>> >> <http://www.nagdu.org/>HTTP://WWW.NAGDU.ORG
>> >>
>> >> Or send an email
>> > message to
>> > <mailto:Info at NAGDU.ORG>Info at NAGDU.ORG
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