[Blindtlk] Sunday school courses

Ericka dotwriter1 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 14 04:04:17 UTC 2017 

Struggling to find Sunday school teachers is a universal problem! I went to church with my grandparents today and the plea went out for Sunday school teachers because those who are leading things weren't able to do it this coming fall.

Can you contact the publishers and see if they would be willing to give you an e-book version?
It's better than nothing and if you explain you're in a foreign country they may be even more willing to help.

Ericka Short
 from my iPhone 6+

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 12:07 PM, adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> no, i even struggle to find readers and people to dictate me the
> textbooks i need to use with my students for work. Every lesson is
> also different and you need to be fully prepared, now they also
> struggle to find sunday school teachers.
> 
>> On 8/13/17, Julie Johnson via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Could you get a reader and just type in the text into the laptop in a way
>> that makes sense to you?  It wouldn't have to be word for word, but maybe
>> just the key points, discussion questions or whatever you would need to be
>> able to lead the class?
>> 
>> You could also sit in on classes and take notes as someone else teaches.
>> Then the next time new classes begin, you'd have the info you need to be
>> able to teach independently.
>> 
>> Or you could work in tandem with another teacher, each of you taking on the
>> 
>> responsibilities that you are best at.
>> 
>> From my own experience working with kids of all ages, if you stick with
>> reading out of a textbook for the entire session, everyone is going to fall
>> 
>> asleep or invent their own amusements.  You have to mix it up.  Have some
>> discussion, an activity, a story, some off topic time, an audio or video
>> piece etc.  Of course you don't need all of these every time, but it does
>> have to be different enough to keep their interest.
>> 
>> HTH
>> Julie
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 11:31 AM
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses
>> 
>> Thanks, the books contain tables and pictures and i couldn't find
>> anyone to scan it and adapt it for me.  I don't use iphone, but have a
>> laptop with NVDA.
>> 
>>> On 8/13/17, Julie Johnson via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Why can't the books be scanned?
>>> 
>>> When I suggested Braille, I meant that I would personally make Braille
>>> notes
>>> 
>>> for myself, with a slate or Braille writer. This is what I did when I
>>> taught
>>> 
>>> at the college and at the after school programs.  I tried a lot of other
>>> options...Braille Note, iPad...and found that paper Braille worked best
>>> for
>>> 
>>> me.  Again, this wasn't sent off and mass produced, it was information I
>>> personally Brailled for my own use.
>>> 
>>> Do you have access to an iPhone or something similar?  What tools do you
>>> have available to you, and what do you need in order to do what you want?
>>> With that info, I think we can work together to figure out something that
>>> could work for you.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
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>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:24 AM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses
>>> 
>>> Sunday school doesn't exist in the orthodox churches here, but I
>>> belong to an international church now with mostly foreigners. They got
>>> some books to use that can't be scanned and in macedonia we have
>>> trouble brailling textbooks for school, let alone other materials.
>>> 
>>>> On 8/13/17, Julie Johnson via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Here Sunday School usually means the hour before, after or in between
>>>> church
>>>> 
>>>> services that is typically for children to learn Bible stories with
>>>> their
>>>> peers.
>>>> I'm going to assume it's pretty much the same in your country.  If not,
>>>> ignore the rest of this.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was a kid the Sunday School teachers were any willing person or
>>>> persons that were considered adults and the Pastor had some belief they
>>>> could manage the class.  There was no training provided.  Some of the
>>>> Sunday
>>>> 
>>>> School teachers were my friends parents and they were really clueless.
>>>> A
>>>> lot of the time the Sunday School teachers were truly on their own and
>>>> could
>>>> 
>>>> present pretty much whatever they wanted.  Later I do remember cartoon
>>>> handout things with some sort of message.  Mostly the teachers brought
>>>> juice
>>>> 
>>>> and donuts in the hopes that it would keep us quiet long enough for her
>>>> to
>>>> say whatever it is she wanted to say.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe that was just my church and maybe it's all changed in more recent
>>>> years.   Or maybe my group was really awful and we scared off the better
>>>> teachers?
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway if you can get the materials ahead of time, you can get them into
>>>> Braille or a digital form so you can use them in the class.  If the kids
>>>> are
>>>> 
>>>> rowdy, donuts do help! LOL
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> Julie
>>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
>>>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
>>>> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:02 AM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses
>>>> 
>>>> Wondering if anyone here had opportunities to take accessible courses
>>>> to enable them to teach kids Sunday school and how it all went for
>>>> them? in my country this is not available to blind or sighted people.
>>>> 
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