[Blindtlk] Sunday school courses

Mon Aug 14 04:59:11 UTC 2017

i tried, but publishers say that they are not able to do this and
author's personal contact info is hard to find.

On 8/14/17, Ericka via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Struggling to find Sunday school teachers is a universal problem! I went to
> church with my grandparents today and the plea went out for Sunday school
> teachers because those who are leading things weren't able to do it this
> coming fall.
>
> Can you contact the publishers and see if they would be willing to give you
> an e-book version?
> It's better than nothing and if you explain you're in a foreign country they
> may be even more willing to help.
>
> Ericka Short
>  from my iPhone 6+
>
>> On Aug 13, 2017, at 12:07 PM, adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> no, i even struggle to find readers and people to dictate me the
>> textbooks i need to use with my students for work. Every lesson is
>> also different and you need to be fully prepared, now they also
>> struggle to find sunday school teachers.
>>
>>> On 8/13/17, Julie Johnson via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Could you get a reader and just type in the text into the laptop in a
>>> way
>>> that makes sense to you?  It wouldn't have to be word for word, but
>>> maybe
>>> just the key points, discussion questions or whatever you would need to
>>> be
>>> able to lead the class?
>>>
>>> You could also sit in on classes and take notes as someone else teaches.
>>> Then the next time new classes begin, you'd have the info you need to be
>>> able to teach independently.
>>>
>>> Or you could work in tandem with another teacher, each of you taking on
>>> the
>>>
>>> responsibilities that you are best at.
>>>
>>> From my own experience working with kids of all ages, if you stick with
>>> reading out of a textbook for the entire session, everyone is going to
>>> fall
>>>
>>> asleep or invent their own amusements.  You have to mix it up.  Have
>>> some
>>> discussion, an activity, a story, some off topic time, an audio or video
>>> piece etc.  Of course you don't need all of these every time, but it
>>> does
>>> have to be different enough to keep their interest.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Julie
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 11:31 AM
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses
>>>
>>> Thanks, the books contain tables and pictures and i couldn't find
>>> anyone to scan it and adapt it for me.  I don't use iphone, but have a
>>> laptop with NVDA.
>>>
>>>> On 8/13/17, Julie Johnson via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Why can't the books be scanned?
>>>>
>>>> When I suggested Braille, I meant that I would personally make Braille
>>>> notes
>>>>
>>>> for myself, with a slate or Braille writer. This is what I did when I
>>>> taught
>>>>
>>>> at the college and at the after school programs.  I tried a lot of
>>>> other
>>>> options...Braille Note, iPad...and found that paper Braille worked best
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>> me.  Again, this wasn't sent off and mass produced, it was information
>>>> I
>>>> personally Brailled for my own use.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have access to an iPhone or something similar?  What tools do
>>>> you
>>>> have available to you, and what do you need in order to do what you
>>>> want?
>>>> With that info, I think we can work together to figure out something
>>>> that
>>>> could work for you.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:24 AM
>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>>>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses
>>>>
>>>> Sunday school doesn't exist in the orthodox churches here, but I
>>>> belong to an international church now with mostly foreigners. They got
>>>> some books to use that can't be scanned and in macedonia we have
>>>> trouble brailling textbooks for school, let alone other materials.
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/13/17, Julie Johnson via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Here Sunday School usually means the hour before, after or in between
>>>>> church
>>>>>
>>>>> services that is typically for children to learn Bible stories with
>>>>> their
>>>>> peers.
>>>>> I'm going to assume it's pretty much the same in your country.  If
>>>>> not,
>>>>> ignore the rest of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was a kid the Sunday School teachers were any willing person or
>>>>> persons that were considered adults and the Pastor had some belief
>>>>> they
>>>>> could manage the class.  There was no training provided.  Some of the
>>>>> Sunday
>>>>>
>>>>> School teachers were my friends parents and they were really clueless.
>>>>> A
>>>>> lot of the time the Sunday School teachers were truly on their own and
>>>>> could
>>>>>
>>>>> present pretty much whatever they wanted.  Later I do remember cartoon
>>>>> handout things with some sort of message.  Mostly the teachers brought
>>>>> juice
>>>>>
>>>>> and donuts in the hopes that it would keep us quiet long enough for
>>>>> her
>>>>> to
>>>>> say whatever it is she wanted to say.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe that was just my church and maybe it's all changed in more
>>>>> recent
>>>>> years.   Or maybe my group was really awful and we scared off the
>>>>> better
>>>>> teachers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway if you can get the materials ahead of time, you can get them
>>>>> into
>>>>> Braille or a digital form so you can use them in the class.  If the
>>>>> kids
>>>>> are
>>>>>
>>>>> rowdy, donuts do help! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> Julie
>>>>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
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>>>>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 10:02 AM
>>>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Cc: adrijana prokopenko
>>>>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Sunday school courses
>>>>>
>>>>> Wondering if anyone here had opportunities to take accessible courses
>>>>> to enable them to teach kids Sunday school and how it all went for
>>>>> them? in my country this is not available to blind or sighted people.
>>>>>
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