[Blindtlk] Driverless Cars

Thu Jan 5 13:13:33 UTC 2017

Remember how prohibitively expensive many of us found the introduction of
braille displays? Well, rehabilitation agencies bought them because they saw
a direct correlation between providing this kind of technology and
employment. If being able to get yourself to and from a job makes the
difference between sitting at home and working, sums of money will be spent
that would exhaust our checkbooks. Remember the tremendous expense of the
Kurzweil reading machine and think about how you can have a unit which is
more powerful and more portable, not for $50,000 or $20,000 but for
ninety-nine dollars plus the price of a smart phone.

I see that part of this thread is whether or not people like the ride
services now being provided. I love them. I have also enjoyed taxicabs, city
buses, Greyhound and Trailways, and let us not forget the passenger train.
None of these services has ever or is likely to give us the convenience that
the man next door has with a car in his driveway. Environmentally I prefer
ridesharing; practically I think that Americans are going to hang on to
their cars and that we will always be behind until we can be the master of
one of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
Schulz via blindtlk
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 11:22 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Cc: Bryan Schulz
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Driverless Cars

Hi,

Especially if you want to be close to first in line, your estimate better
end with 000,000!
Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Donahue via blindtlk
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 8:52 PM
To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
Cc: Mary Donahue
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Driverless Cars

Good evening everyone,

	Bring on the driverless cars. Mary and I want to boldly go where no
Uber or mass transit service will take a blind person to. We can't wait for
these beasts to come available and are getting our financial ducks in order
so we can buy one.

Peter Donahue

-----Original Message-----
From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ericka via
blindtlk
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:08 PM
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Cc: Ericka
Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Driverless Cars

I don't trust tech. Uber is cheaper than a taxi and more universal than
other mass transit.

Ericka Short
1750 Fordem Ave. #508
Madison. WI. 53704
608-665-3170

 from my iPhone 6s

> On Jan 3, 2017, at 3:13 PM, Carly Mihalakis via blindtlk
<blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Because blind people don't need to be driving! Hasn't yet been done
because such a  preposterous notion hasn't until now, occurred to any blind
people, I guess. At 12:03 PM 1/2/2017, Jen via blindtlk wrote:
>> Hi Jude and Gary,
>> 
>> Thank you for your thought-provoking posts. Someone on another list 
>> was discussing the need for the universal design of appliances, so 
>> let's why can't the universal design approach be used for driverless 
>> cars with the technology already out there? For instance, JAWS and 
>> other screen readers have been out for over a decade now, so why 
>> couldn't screen reader technology be input into driverless cars to 
>> guide the potential blind driver?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
>> DaShiell via blindtlk
>> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 4:05 AM
>> To: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>; Blind Talk Mailing List 
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; Jen via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Driverless Cars
>> 
>> Actually, the only reason flying cars are not in use now is because 
>> the FAA can't figure out how to control the air space from ground to
>> 200 feet of altitude. Economical flying car design has already been 
>> patented and, if that happens, those will be manufactured out of one 
>> of our New England States, so no, none of this is beyond the realm of 
>> possibility. Does any of it become available to blind people? Most 
>> certainly not, not in this lifetime at least. Accessible medical 
>> devices aren't the law of the land, let alone driverless cars for the
blind, not to mention accessible tv units.
>> I'm not talking about cable, I'm talking about the tv units themselves.
>> Maybe in two more of my lifetimes, we get accessible tv units, and 
>> maybe in another three lifetimes after that, we get accessible 
>> medical devices, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
>> 
>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Carly Mihalakis wrote:
>> 
>> > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 03:09:41
>> > From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
>> > To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>,
>> >     Jen via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Driverless Cars
>> >
>> > Don't mean to be a nay-sayer but can you see this tech actually
happening?
>> I
>> > sure can't, or at least in not such a way for it's being available 
>> > to all blind people.
>> > CarAt 11:15 PM 1/1/2017, Jude DaShiell via blindtlk wrote:
>> >> You don't drive in a driverless car.  The only things that get in 
>> >> them
>> are
>> >> passengers and luggage of various types.
>> >> As I understand the technology it's going to be under-designed and 
>> >> that under-design will cost lives.  Not so much of passengers but 
>> >> rather pedestrians. These cars would need to get flight 
>> >> capabilities so that if negotiation of a section of road were 
>> >> temporarily impossible they could lift off for distance sufficient 
>> >> to bypass the obstacles and continue on their way.  Hovercraft 
>> >> technology could do this if it were part of
>> standard
>> >> design but that'll not be the case for the first vehicles put on 
>> >> the
>> roads.
>> >> A school bus and large truck having an accident in an intersection 
>> >> just ahead of a driverless car that happens too soon for the 
>> >> driverless car to
>> 
>> >> take an alternate route to bypass such an accident with children 
>> >> and whatever the truck looses all over the intersection would be 
>> >> one of the scenarios where flight capability would be more than a 
>> >> nice to have
>> feature
>> >> on a driverless car.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 1 Jan 2017, Jen via blindtlk wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 16:22:07
>> >>> From: Jen via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>> >>> Cc: Jen <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
>> >>> Subject: [Blindtlk] Driverless Cars Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> Happy New Year!
>> >>>
>> >>> What is your opinion of driver-less cars? Personally, I can't 
>> >>> wait for their arrival on the road! I'm totally blind from birth 
>> >>> and would like the chance to drive, just to feel what it feels 
>> >>> like. My best friend, who happens
>> to
>> >>> be
>> >>> sighted, feels otherwise though.
>> >>>
>> >>> How about you?
>> >>>
>> >>>
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