[Blindtlk] Information about dreamers needed

Fri Sep 15 22:33:38 UTC 2017

If you have specifics about how many, of these people are on the dole, let's 
hear them.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Laz via blindtlk
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Can we please keep this conversation based on actual data and not
generalities? For example who are these quote many of them unquote?
And how many of these quote many of them unquote are on the dole
instead?

Thanks. Things just get hazy when generalities are entered into the
conversation is all.

On 9/15/17, Mark Tardif via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> DACA specifically refers to people who were brought here when they were
> children.  In other words, they had no say in that decision by their 
> parents
>
> or guardians to bring them into this country illegally.  And many of them
> who were brought here years ago have not known any other home and have 
> gone
>
> to school and either continue to go to school or are productive, employed
> people, who themselves pay taxes by the way.  So I certainly think DACA
> dreamers, whether blind or not, should be given the help they need to
> continue to be productive and have a better life here.
>
>
>
> Mark Tardif
> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laz via blindtlk
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:24 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Information about dreamers needed
>
> Hmm. Really? Why didn't they enter the country legally? I'm asking
> because I entered the country legally back in 1965 along with my
> family. I would think I should have more rights than these people who
> didn't bother to take the necessary and legal steps to enter the
> country legally... Sounds like they just came in to be a burden on the
> tax payers and anyone who has ever worked legally is aware of that tax
> bite on their income. If this was a debate I'm starting to see which
> side I would fall into on this one
>
> Something about this just doesn't make sense so I'm obviously missing
> some important facts on this subject.
>
> On 9/15/17, Cindy Ray via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> These are young people who fall under the care of the Deferred Action
>> Child
>> Advocacy Act. Many of them came here with parents who did not enter the
>> country legally; many may have just entered alone, I think, though don't
>> quote me on this. They have been granted the right to work and study
>> here.
>> I
>> can't remember the exact meaning of DREAM acronym here. In any case, the
>> president is trying to remove the DACA Act, thus enabling these young
>> people, many of whom have never lived anywhere else, to countries they
>> know
>> nothing about. There is more about it, but this is in short.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laz via
>> blindtlk
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 10:51 AM
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>> Cc: Laz <laz at talkingmp3players.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Blindtlk] Information about dreamers needed
>>
>> Okay, I'll bite. What are DREAMers?
>>
>> Laz
>>
>> On 9/15/17, adrijana prokopenko via blindtlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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