[BlindTlk] Regarding Effectiveness of Cleaning Solutions and Devices

Mon Apr 8 00:11:52 UTC 2019

Ah, but Umberto, let me remind you, as Judy pointed out, sighted folks have to get their hands good and filthy wile cleaning.  So, you see, that argument about sighted people just knowing where to clean is a misnomer I can tell you that for sure.  Do not buy in to the idea that there are no sloppy sighted cleaners:  for I can most assuredly inform you that there are.

 Believe me when I tell you sight ain’t no guarantee of clean.

Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Nothing to it but to do it.
> 
> What you are saying is true, that a sighted person can see something from afar and wipe it away, but in describing the area policing thing, this doesn't take an inordinate amount of time if done regularly.  It doesn't takeany longer for blind people to clean than for a sighted person to clean, when all is said and done.
> 
> So for now, even today, start with the living situation you're in right now, however that works best for you.
> 
> Also remember that you may or may not be moving into a clean living situation, so just start by being aware of what's around you and what needs doing.
> 
> It sounds like you may never have been responsible in this way, but some guys, sighted or otherwise, aren't necessarily trained in that way either.  There are people who are tasked with cleaning chores growing up, but this isn't always the case with everyone, and true of sighted as well.  In other words, you are not alone, and it's great that you are asking these things on the list.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Humberto Avila via BlindTlk
> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 9:09 PM
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> Cc: Humberto Avila
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Regarding Effectiveness of Cleaning Solutions and Devices
> 
> Hello Judy and Ray,
> Thanks for clarifying this information. Of course, when I meant to say about the probability of germs I didn't say that I cannot clean or do an equal job at it as a sighted person would because I am fully capable of doing it. Rather, I was thinking in my mind about having to always feel when I am cleaning to see if there are any spots around, especially if I need to fill something I thought I ran over but didn't. My understanding is that a sighted person would always see where they would target their cleaning, so they can do it efficiently. 
> Always washing hands is just a good practice, I knew this even from middle and high school. But my dilemma is not about blindness; but rather, how to learn to be as consistent and do it as confidently and efficiently as a sighted person. 
> 
> Thanks for the feedback again.
> Humberto
> 
> “Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.”
> — ME
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 7:44 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Sighted or blind, always wash your hands with soap, germs are no respector of persons or disabilities.  Sighted folks don't clean just by looking at it, they have to get their hands dirty, too.
>> 
>> Clean is clean.  We buy the dawn detergent, because it is so good for so many things.  A drop of it in a bucket of water also tends to break the water tension, so is a good all-round cleaner, even if meant for dishes.  We keep a gallon in the kitchen and some in each bathroom.
>> 
>> Sighted or blind, if you have done a dirty job, indoors or out, wash afterwards with soap.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Humberto Avila via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 7:28 PM
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>> Cc: Humberto Avila
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Regarding Effectiveness of Cleaning Solutions and Devices
>> 
>> Thanks all for your awesome ideas. 
>> 
>> I really see the value of feeling or "policing" the area where I clean up, as a Blind person. My hands are my eyes, which is yes something that I already knew. However, seeing as the content of the kitchen counter, floors, or even toilets may have many germs on or in them, I would be concerned as to the probability of me getting sick from getting in contact with those germs which would be far greater than the probability for a sighted person, whom uses their eyes to police the area, even if I wash my hands. 
>> It sort of feels like a Blind person would have to do some more extra steps just to be as proactive and make the place look clean or professional at all times. How often should I do these things? In your experience are there products that have better cleaning consistency than others? How do I tell? 
>> Thanks in advance and sorry about my many questions. It's just that it's my first time doing it. 
>> 
>> Humberto 
>> 
>> “Positive thinking leads to a positive attitude which leads to positive actions which lead to positive outcomes.”
>> — ME
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Anitra Webber via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I like to use wipes. Sometimes leave a chemical residue which you can feel. A wet paper towel or rag will take care of that. 
>>> 
>>> I use a scrub brush and Comet powder cleanser in water on my tub and mat. After I finish with the brush I use a rag to wash it off. I wipe with the rag as the water drains out of the tub because sometimes some of the cleaner and soap scum stays at the bottom the tub. (I use a rough kitchen washcloth as a rag.) I wash the wall around the tub because soap gets on it when I take a shower. I hang the tub mat on the shower curtain rod so it and the tub can dry, preventing mildew. I put my rug under the mat (on the floor) so that the water won't drip on the floor. I have a cloth shower curtain that I can put in the clothes washer. It's easier than washing the soap scum off a plastic/vinyl curtain. Also I use the liquid body wash instead of bar soap because it doesn't a lot of soap scum in the tub.
>>> SOS pads are good for cleaning the oven. But it's a good idea to use a wet rag to rinse of the soap the pads leave behind. 
>>> 
>>> Sponges with a scubber on one side are really helpful to remove soap scum from the bathroom counter and sink. I do that before using a disinfecting wipe.
>>> 
>>> If you have a Dollar Tree store near you, you can get a good deal on things you need to clean your appartment. I don't recommend their brooms and mops though.
>>> Anitra Webber 
>>> 
>>>  On Saturday, April 6, 2019, 5:43:57 PM MDT, Humberto Avila via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone on the Blind Talk list:
>>> 
>>> I am currently starting to live in an apartment independently with a roomate and I have some questions about cleaning it.
>>> 
>>> Based on your experiences, which produt(s) are more efficient, effective, and accessibly do the job well for a blind person? How are your experiences with using wipes, general-purpose systems and soaps? Which ones should I use in the kitchen and which ones do I need for the bathroom ETC? How do you properly use them nonvisually?
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much! Have an awesome weekend!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, Humberto
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