[BlindTlk] Computers for the blind

Fri Apr 19 17:12:40 UTC 2019

Ericka,

I'm not certain that I completely understand your situation.  Those who produce software such as Vispero have the right to define their pricing based upon how their software is used.  They can tell you that you can't use your home license on a work machine.  Obviously, if you used your home computer at work, it would be hard for them to ever figure that out.  If you had a professional license, though, you could install it on a work machine and you could still use that on your home machine.  You could likely upgrade your home license to a professional license for less money than buying a new professional license, but your agency may not pay to upgrade your home license.  The advantage to you having one license to deal with is that upgrades will cost you less in the future.  You will pay something every year to upgrade both your home and your professional license, so having a single license to upgrade will cost less.  As far as I know, using your professional license on a work machine and at home is permitted.  Obviously, it would be good to check that out for certain, though.  

It is getting less and less the case that an employer will allow you to use your own computer in a workplace, though.  If they do let you use your own computer, it is more likely that they may want their virus checker and possibly other protective software to be used.  The Professional version of JAWS would let you install it on their machine.  Some smaller employees are more likely to be glad to find a way to save some money by having you use your own computer thereby leaving one of theirs available for somebody else.  Suggesting that you bring your computer for use because you have a screen reader on it already seems a little shabby, though, as it sounds like they are just saving a computer more than anything.  

The whole landscape is getting more complicated with work machines.  Ten years ago, I was able to use a desktop at work and also install all of my work software on my home machine.  However, it is no longer possible to do anything for work on my home computer except email, and that is not easy.  There are restrictions on what I can update on my work computer as well.  Some employers lock that down completely to the extent that an IT professional might have to install JAWS and even update JAWS.  This is all done for security and also to make sure that software on a computer is not pirated.

I hope this makes some sense.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-----Original Message-----
From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ericka via BlindTlk
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 4:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Computers for the blind

It depends on what the situation is and of course I would ask permission. Actually for my temporary work experience at Goodwill in their office they were wondering if I had a computer to bring in with speech software already on it. Since that isn’t the case DVR will be doing the subscription thing. Should I let my counselor know that I should have the professional version? After all this is something I will be able to take from workplace to workplace. I understand that it works differently than the home version which of course would be on a Computers For The Blind machine which would be fine for home use.

Ericka Nelson

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> In addition, I believe you could get in trouble with an employer for
> bringing your computer into the workplace, depending on the level of
> confidentiality they need to maintain.
> 
> Judy
> "Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude
> DaShiell via BlindTlk
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:22 AM
> To: Ericka via BlindTlk
> Cc: Jude DaShiell
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Computers for the blind
> 
> It is never a good idea to take a home computer into the workplace!
> Even more so if you work for part of the national infrastructure or
> government.  Reason for that is simple.  Computers in those workplaces
> get hacked regularly.  If you have a separate workplace computer and a
> home computer and your workplace computer gets hacked, it's technical
> support (help desk) responsibility to fix it.  If you only use your home
> computer at home and in work, you could be responsible for any data loss
> and any necessary repairs.  If an employer hasn't got enough money to
> set you up with a workplace computer and any other office equipment
> necessary for you to do your work, that employer is too
> under-capitalized to hire you.
> 
>> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Ericka via BlindTlk wrote:
>> 
>> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:48:30
>> From: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Computers for the blind
>> 
>> Georgia, I am in Wisconsin. I agree with Mr. Mac out there. If I?m doing
> it for home use only I would love to have a Mac. But a PC is more practical
> since it can go into the workforce.
>> 
>> Ericka Nelson
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Georgia Cabus via BlindTlk
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Seen your email at the blindtlk. I checked them out before but I got mt
>>> laptop from Kevin from one of the listserv. He's from a non-profit org
> too
>>> and very helpful on what I needed. I didn't have a lot budget for a
> laptop
>>> but he found me a 12" lenovo that worked (I needed a lightweight with a
>>> good specs) and I got it for $135 plus shipping.
>>> 
>>> If you can't find any laptop from CFTB I can give his email.
>>> 
>>> Or if you are at certain states, there's local organizations that help
> on
>>> computers. Where are you from? I might know something.
>>> 
>>> Georgia
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