[BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...

Ericka dotwriter1 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 4 00:43:13 UTC 2019


I can’t figure that app out. 1Password used to be free and I had stuff there but lost it after a momth. Don’t trust these apps.

Ericka Nelson

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes, but if you download and use an app like Dashline, that should take care
> of that problem.
> 
> Judy
> "Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude
> DaShiell via BlindTlk
> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 2:39 PM
> To: Ericka via BlindTlk
> Cc: Jude DaShiell
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
> 
> Unfortunately, these phones don't export passwords.  When I get
> passwords and when I remember I write those down in braille.  If other
> braille users are around, I can always use encryption.
> 
> One simple technique for encryption has everything broken into 5 letter
> groups and the first letter is a clear letter but every letter after
> that first letter gets added to the last letter.  An example, the word
> letter encrypts like this:
> lqkejd.
> 
> Alphabet has 26 letters in it unless you want to put upper-case and
> numbers in which case the character set has 62.
> To make things easy, lower-case upper-case then numbers in that order
> could lay out the character set.
> For password encryption if you went beyond letters and numbers and that
> happens often you'd have to use the whole 95-character printing set
> omitting the space.
> 
>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019, Ericka via BlindTlk wrote:
>> 
>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:41:13
>> From: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>> 
>> This depresses me. I don?t want to change! I?d better get all my passwords
> figured out before I have to get a new one. :-)
>> 
>> Ericka Nelson
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk
> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try 2014 when I got a 6+ that was new then.
>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019, Judy
>>> Jones via BlindTlk wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 15:44:15
>>>> From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>>>> 
>>>> I believe iPhone supports their versions for five years, so depends on
> when
>>>> that one came out.  Correct me if I am wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> Judy
>>>> "Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James
> Kelm
>>>> via BlindTlk
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 12:28 PM
>>>> To: 'Jude DaShiell'; 'James Kelm via BlindTlk'
>>>> Cc: James Kelm
>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>>>> 
>>>> This is great!  I am enjoying the discussion concerning Cell phones,
> and you
>>>> all are helping me to feel less of a dinesore.  LOLL
>>>> 
>>>>     OK, what are your thoughts?  I spoke with my carrier, and they
> said
>>>> that I can get a iPhone 6S for around $250, I can't recall the exact
> number,
>>>> and it would cost me around $20 per month, which is definitely within
> my
>>>> budget.  They of course have all of the iPhones up to the current
> model, but
>>>> they cost more.  The 6S caught my attention because the guy said that
> he
>>>> couldn't see it being unsupported for quite a while, and it is the
> lowest
>>>> priced iPhone that they have.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> James
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jude DaShiell [mailto:jdashiel at panix.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 11:54 PM
>>>> To: James Kelm via BlindTlk
>>>> Cc: James Kelm
>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>>>> 
>>>> You're out of date already with the iPhone 4s.  For the android choice
>>>> I'd ask what operating system upgrade can it take.  Android 4 is
>>>> Ice-cream Sandwich and I got my tablet I think in 2014 that had a later
>>>> operating system on it than that.  Android Q will be available later
>>>> this year and that's version 10.  It's best to keep current with
>>>> operating systems if you value security.  The iPhone 4s is obsolete
>>>> according to Apple.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2019, James Kelm via BlindTlk wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 10:45:08
>>>>> From: James Kelm via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: James Kelm <jameskelm at earthlink.net>
>>>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>> 
>>>>>   OK, I am going to be trying to enter into this century, at least as
>>>> far
>>>>> as telephones go!  LOLL  I can use your help!
>>>>> 
>>>>>   I need to get a smart phone for work.  But like so many others, I
> have
>>>> a
>>>>> limited financial budget.  I need the phone for calls of course, but
> that
>>>> is
>>>>> actually somewhat secondary.  I mainly need it so that I can learn
> about
>>>> the
>>>>> wide range of aps out there that are especially helpful for the blind.
> So
>>>>> my main question is this, I can get an affordable price on the
> following
>>>>> phones: Sky Devices 5.0Q 8GB 3G/4G Android 4.4 Unlocked $79.99, and
> the
>>>>> iPhone 4S 8 GB $99.00.  Are either of these phones a particularly good
>>>>> choice for me to start my smart phone journey on?  Also, are they
>>>> something
>>>>> that will serve me well, or will I be frustrated and out of date very
>>>>> quickly.  Are they like getting a computer with an OS of Windows 5?  I
>>>> tend
>>>>> to be more interested in the iPhone, but is this one a great deal
>>>> different
>>>>> from those that were just released?  Like I said I need this for work,
> so
>>>> I
>>>>> want to make the right choices.
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Thank you so much for your help!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> James
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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