[BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...

Tue Jun 4 00:49:43 UTC 2019

Exactly. I had a set of Braille notecards one on the phone for each password. Then I updated forgetting to update cards. 

Ericka Nelson

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:53 PM, Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Until dash lane gets hacked.  That already happened to last pass once.
> 
>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019, Judy Jones via BlindTlk wrote:
>> 
>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 17:48:00
>> From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>> 
>> Yes, but if you download and use an app like Dashline, that should take care
>> of that problem.
>> 
>> Judy
>> "Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude
>> DaShiell via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 2:39 PM
>> To: Ericka via BlindTlk
>> Cc: Jude DaShiell
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>> 
>> Unfortunately, these phones don't export passwords.  When I get
>> passwords and when I remember I write those down in braille.  If other
>> braille users are around, I can always use encryption.
>> 
>> One simple technique for encryption has everything broken into 5 letter
>> groups and the first letter is a clear letter but every letter after
>> that first letter gets added to the last letter.  An example, the word
>> letter encrypts like this:
>> lqkejd.
>> 
>> Alphabet has 26 letters in it unless you want to put upper-case and
>> numbers in which case the character set has 62.
>> To make things easy, lower-case upper-case then numbers in that order
>> could lay out the character set.
>> For password encryption if you went beyond letters and numbers and that
>> happens often you'd have to use the whole 95-character printing set
>> omitting the space.
>> 
>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019, Ericka via BlindTlk wrote:
>>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 16:41:13
>>> From: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: Blind Talk Mailing List <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>>> 
>>> This depresses me. I don?t want to change! I?d better get all my passwords
>> figured out before I have to get a new one. :-)
>>> 
>>> Ericka Nelson
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Try 2014 when I got a 6+ that was new then.
>>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019, Judy
>>>> Jones via BlindTlk wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 15:44:15
>>>>> From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I believe iPhone supports their versions for five years, so depends on
>> when
>>>>> that one came out.  Correct me if I am wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Judy
>>>>> "Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James
>> Kelm
>>>>> via BlindTlk
>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 12:28 PM
>>>>> To: 'Jude DaShiell'; 'James Kelm via BlindTlk'
>>>>> Cc: James Kelm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is great!  I am enjoying the discussion concerning Cell phones,
>> and you
>>>>> all are helping me to feel less of a dinesore.  LOLL
>>>>> 
>>>>>     OK, what are your thoughts?  I spoke with my carrier, and they
>> said
>>>>> that I can get a iPhone 6S for around $250, I can't recall the exact
>> number,
>>>>> and it would cost me around $20 per month, which is definitely within
>> my
>>>>> budget.  They of course have all of the iPhones up to the current
>> model, but
>>>>> they cost more.  The 6S caught my attention because the guy said that
>> he
>>>>> couldn't see it being unsupported for quite a while, and it is the
>> lowest
>>>>> priced iPhone that they have.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> James
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jude DaShiell [mailto:jdashiel at panix.com]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 11:54 PM
>>>>> To: James Kelm via BlindTlk
>>>>> Cc: James Kelm
>>>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>>>>> 
>>>>> You're out of date already with the iPhone 4s.  For the android choice
>>>>> I'd ask what operating system upgrade can it take.  Android 4 is
>>>>> Ice-cream Sandwich and I got my tablet I think in 2014 that had a later
>>>>> operating system on it than that.  Android Q will be available later
>>>>> this year and that's version 10.  It's best to keep current with
>>>>> operating systems if you value security.  The iPhone 4s is obsolete
>>>>> according to Apple.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2019, James Kelm via BlindTlk wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 10:45:08
>>>>>> From: James Kelm via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List' <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: James Kelm <jameskelm at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] Help buying a smart phone please...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   OK, I am going to be trying to enter into this century, at least as
>>>>> far
>>>>>> as telephones go!  LOLL  I can use your help!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   I need to get a smart phone for work.  But like so many others, I
>> have
>>>>> a
>>>>>> limited financial budget.  I need the phone for calls of course, but
>> that
>>>>> is
>>>>>> actually somewhat secondary.  I mainly need it so that I can learn
>> about
>>>>> the
>>>>>> wide range of aps out there that are especially helpful for the blind.
>> So
>>>>>> my main question is this, I can get an affordable price on the
>> following
>>>>>> phones: Sky Devices 5.0Q 8GB 3G/4G Android 4.4 Unlocked $79.99, and
>> the
>>>>>> iPhone 4S 8 GB $99.00.  Are either of these phones a particularly good
>>>>>> choice for me to start my smart phone journey on?  Also, are they
>>>>> something
>>>>>> that will serve me well, or will I be frustrated and out of date very
>>>>>> quickly.  Are they like getting a computer with an OS of Windows 5?  I
>>>>> tend
>>>>>> to be more interested in the iPhone, but is this one a great deal
>>>>> different
>>>>>> from those that were just released?  Like I said I need this for work,
>> so
>>>>> I
>>>>>> want to make the right choices.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   Thank you so much for your help!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>> James
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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