[BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?

Ericka dotwriter1 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 31 16:53:19 UTC 2019 

Sounds really interesting Judy. I wonder if they are going to incorporate something like that when they do our bus rapid transit here in Madison. Admittedly and sadly I never got to the final presentation. I have contacts though and I could find out more. Looking forward to your report on these new fangled things.

Going to be an interesting winter… 5 inches of snow for Halloween. This is a trick or treat to Wisconsin?

Ericka Nelson

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Your answer answers my question.  I am going to have a chance to experience them next week with the team I am going with, but what I understand, it is a concrete bulb the size for a bus stop that will allow the bus to pickup passengers without leaving the lane of traffic.
> 
> Judy
> 
> “Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 5:15 PM
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> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?
> 
> Yes.  What are they?  Pam.
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:48 PM
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> Cc: Judy Jones
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?
> 
> I'm actually talking about bulb stops, not the floating stops, thank 
> heavens.
> 
> Judy
> 
> “Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ericka via 
> BlindTlk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 12:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?
> 
> I see what you mean about the floating stops. Yes that is not good for us. 
> There’s a lot of construction near my apartment building and they closed a 
> lane to have the bus stop so we could get out on the island. We had to cross 
> two loads of traffic from that island to get to our side of the street. 
> Nobody paid attention and it was pretty nerve-racking. My husband and I are 
> good travelers but this just didn’t feel safe so we gave up and found other 
> ways to get places. The construction is still going on and has been since 
> April. I do not recommend anyone go to floating bus stops or stopping in 
> unsafe places randomly. 30 years ago it probably would’ve been OK to some 
> degree because drivers were more aware of their surroundings. Now I question 
> the abilities of any person with a drivers license!
> 
> Ericka Nelson
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Elizabeth Campbell via BlindTlk 
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Judy, I don't have any experience with this type of bus stop, but I think
>> this concept would not work well for blind passengers. For instance, how
>> would we locate the stops if they can be moved to different locations? I"m
>> sure we can find the bulbs with our canes, but guide dogs are trained to
>> avoid obstacles. We can pattern the dogs to find specific bus stops, etc.,
>> but if these floating stops are implemented, I think they would create
>> barriers to access.
>> Just my thoughts here as I haven't experienced using these types of stops.
>> I am in Fort Worth, and we have stops that are pretty easy to find as many
>> have shelters and so forth.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Judy Jones via BlindTlk 
>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My husband and I are on the Skagit Transit Community Advisory Council.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a couple of weeks, we will all be traveling down to Everett, 
>>> Washington
>>> to view their bulb bus stops set up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As I understand it, the bulb is just that, a jut-out bulb directly from 
>>> the
>>> curb, where the buss would stop.  This allows the bus to not have to pull
>>> out of a lane of traffic in order to pick up passengers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I asked about the bus blocking traffic in that lane, and about possible
>>> future driver complaints, but was told there is another lane of traffic
>>> cars
>>> could pull into on a 4-lane street.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My big question is if this is something that could evolve into 
>>> implementing
>>> floating bus stops in future.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Do you all have any experience, pros or cons you can share regarding bulb
>>> bus stops?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Skagit County has neither, and is not planning on implementing any 
>>> floating
>>> stops, thank heavens, but want to get feedback from others around the
>>> country on the bulb stops.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, all, for your input and suggestions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Judy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."
>>> 
>>> 
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