[BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?

Thu Oct 31 18:55:08 UTC 2019

Oh man!  I wonder if my friend in Milwaukee is getting that!  Pam.

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From: Ericka via BlindTlk
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Sounds really interesting Judy. I wonder if they are going to incorporate 
something like that when they do our bus rapid transit here in Madison. 
Admittedly and sadly I never got to the final presentation. I have contacts 
though and I could find out more. Looking forward to your report on these 
new fangled things.

Going to be an interesting winter… 5 inches of snow for Halloween. This is a 
trick or treat to Wisconsin?

Ericka Nelson

> On Oct 16, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
>
> Your answer answers my question.  I am going to have a chance to 
> experience them next week with the team I am going with, but what I 
> understand, it is a concrete bulb the size for a bus stop that will allow 
> the bus to pickup passengers without leaving the lane of traffic.
>
> Judy
>
> “Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Pamela 
> Dominguez via BlindTlk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 5:15 PM
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> Cc: Pamela Dominguez
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?
>
> Yes.  What are they?  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:48 PM
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> Cc: Judy Jones
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?
>
> I'm actually talking about bulb stops, not the floating stops, thank
> heavens.
>
> Judy
>
> “Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ericka 
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> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?
>
> I see what you mean about the floating stops. Yes that is not good for us.
> There’s a lot of construction near my apartment building and they closed a
> lane to have the bus stop so we could get out on the island. We had to 
> cross
> two loads of traffic from that island to get to our side of the street.
> Nobody paid attention and it was pretty nerve-racking. My husband and I 
> are
> good travelers but this just didn’t feel safe so we gave up and found 
> other
> ways to get places. The construction is still going on and has been since
> April. I do not recommend anyone go to floating bus stops or stopping in
> unsafe places randomly. 30 years ago it probably would’ve been OK to some
> degree because drivers were more aware of their surroundings. Now I 
> question
> the abilities of any person with a drivers license!
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Elizabeth Campbell via BlindTlk
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Judy, I don't have any experience with this type of bus stop, but I 
>> think
>> this concept would not work well for blind passengers. For instance, how
>> would we locate the stops if they can be moved to different locations? 
>> I"m
>> sure we can find the bulbs with our canes, but guide dogs are trained to
>> avoid obstacles. We can pattern the dogs to find specific bus stops, 
>> etc.,
>> but if these floating stops are implemented, I think they would create
>> barriers to access.
>> Just my thoughts here as I haven't experienced using these types of 
>> stops.
>> I am in Fort Worth, and we have stops that are pretty easy to find as 
>> many
>> have shelters and so forth.
>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Judy Jones via BlindTlk
>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My husband and I are on the Skagit Transit Community Advisory Council.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a couple of weeks, we will all be traveling down to Everett,
>>> Washington
>>> to view their bulb bus stops set up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As I understand it, the bulb is just that, a jut-out bulb directly from
>>> the
>>> curb, where the buss would stop.  This allows the bus to not have to 
>>> pull
>>> out of a lane of traffic in order to pick up passengers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I asked about the bus blocking traffic in that lane, and about possible
>>> future driver complaints, but was told there is another lane of traffic
>>> cars
>>> could pull into on a 4-lane street.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My big question is if this is something that could evolve into
>>> implementing
>>> floating bus stops in future.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you all have any experience, pros or cons you can share regarding 
>>> bulb
>>> bus stops?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Skagit County has neither, and is not planning on implementing any
>>> floating
>>> stops, thank heavens, but want to get feedback from others around the
>>> country on the bulb stops.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, all, for your input and suggestions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Judy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."
>>>
>>>
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