[BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?

Ericka dotwriter1 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 31 21:55:05 UTC 2019 

About 12:30 PM I talk to someone in Kenosha which is closer to the Illinois border than Milwaukee. He said they only had an inch so far. Goodness knows what’s happening now! Madison has sunshine now which is nice. My sister lives a community or two to the east of us and I wonder if she’s going to take her six and nine-year-old out trick-or-treating in the snow and cold. Not usually a protective aunt, but I don’t think I would take them trick-or-treating.

Ericka Nelson

> On Oct 31, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Oh man!  I wonder if my friend in Milwaukee is getting that!  Pam.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Ericka via BlindTlk
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> 
> Sounds really interesting Judy. I wonder if they are going to incorporate something like that when they do our bus rapid transit here in Madison. Admittedly and sadly I never got to the final presentation. I have contacts though and I could find out more. Looking forward to your report on these new fangled things.
> 
> Going to be an interesting winter… 5 inches of snow for Halloween. This is a trick or treat to Wisconsin?
> 
> Ericka Nelson
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Your answer answers my question.  I am going to have a chance to experience them next week with the team I am going with, but what I understand, it is a concrete bulb the size for a bus stop that will allow the bus to pickup passengers without leaving the lane of traffic.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> “Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 5:15 PM
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>> Cc: Pamela Dominguez
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?
>> 
>> Yes.  What are they?  Pam.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Judy Jones via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:48 PM
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>> Cc: Judy Jones
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?
>> 
>> I'm actually talking about bulb stops, not the floating stops, thank
>> heavens.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> “Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.”
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ericka via
>> BlindTlk
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 12:33 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Does anyone have experience with bulb bus stops?
>> 
>> I see what you mean about the floating stops. Yes that is not good for us.
>> There’s a lot of construction near my apartment building and they closed a
>> lane to have the bus stop so we could get out on the island. We had to cross
>> two loads of traffic from that island to get to our side of the street.
>> Nobody paid attention and it was pretty nerve-racking. My husband and I are
>> good travelers but this just didn’t feel safe so we gave up and found other
>> ways to get places. The construction is still going on and has been since
>> April. I do not recommend anyone go to floating bus stops or stopping in
>> unsafe places randomly. 30 years ago it probably would’ve been OK to some
>> degree because drivers were more aware of their surroundings. Now I question
>> the abilities of any person with a drivers license!
>> 
>> Ericka Nelson
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Elizabeth Campbell via BlindTlk
>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Judy, I don't have any experience with this type of bus stop, but I think
>>> this concept would not work well for blind passengers. For instance, how
>>> would we locate the stops if they can be moved to different locations? I"m
>>> sure we can find the bulbs with our canes, but guide dogs are trained to
>>> avoid obstacles. We can pattern the dogs to find specific bus stops, etc.,
>>> but if these floating stops are implemented, I think they would create
>>> barriers to access.
>>> Just my thoughts here as I haven't experienced using these types of stops.
>>> I am in Fort Worth, and we have stops that are pretty easy to find as many
>>> have shelters and so forth.
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 8:16 PM Judy Jones via BlindTlk
>>>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My husband and I are on the Skagit Transit Community Advisory Council.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In a couple of weeks, we will all be traveling down to Everett,
>>>> Washington
>>>> to view their bulb bus stops set up.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As I understand it, the bulb is just that, a jut-out bulb directly from
>>>> the
>>>> curb, where the buss would stop.  This allows the bus to not have to pull
>>>> out of a lane of traffic in order to pick up passengers.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I asked about the bus blocking traffic in that lane, and about possible
>>>> future driver complaints, but was told there is another lane of traffic
>>>> cars
>>>> could pull into on a 4-lane street.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My big question is if this is something that could evolve into
>>>> implementing
>>>> floating bus stops in future.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Do you all have any experience, pros or cons you can share regarding bulb
>>>> bus stops?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Skagit County has neither, and is not planning on implementing any
>>>> floating
>>>> stops, thank heavens, but want to get feedback from others around the
>>>> country on the bulb stops.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, all, for your input and suggestions.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Judy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."
>>>> 
>>>> 
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