[BlindTlk] A question

Wed Mar 11 13:54:12 UTC 2020

The only time I have had something cut up is when it was part of a plate of 
something that was full to the brim.  And I let another person at the table 
with me do it.  If I can't get the witor's attention for a refill, or 
something, I usually raise my hand.  It feels funny, sort-of like I'm in 
school.  If the person is near by, I sometimes call.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Hyde, David W. (ESC) via BlindTlk
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I would caution that problems with things not coming out of containers, then 
all at once, pouring that doesn't work, etc. are not limited to blind 
people. Now waitrons are sometimes more helpful than I'd like, although I 
have found myself in the position of trying different ways to attract their 
attention for more coffee, or service in a bar. I don't think I've ever 
requested food cut up.
We are all different.

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Yeah, that is when you go home and just change everything.

That doesn't sound like a blindness thing, though.

That just sounds like their syrup was memessed up.

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What I might do is have them put the syrup on pancakes.  One time, I went to 
put syrup on, and it was in a pitcher.  I poured, and nothing happened, and 
nothing happened, and nothing happened ... Then, plop!  The whole pitcherful 
of syrup came out at once all over me, the table the bench, the floor, etc.!

I had to go into the bathroom and try to clean up, and the waitress had to 
clean up the whole table and everything and get me a new order of pancakes, 
and probably everything else.  Oh man!  I give up!  I think it's time to go 
to bed!  I just had to correct this email.  I actually wrote "syrupful of 
pitcher"!  Wow!  Pam.

-----Original Message-----
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Now that is something I have asked my waitress to do a few times before she 
left the table, as I've had ketchup splatter a few times and worry about 
some droplets splattering on my shirt or something.

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It just shows you that we are all at different stages.

On 3/10/2020 6:55 PM, Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk wrote:
> This morning, when I went out to breakfast with a friend, I suddenly
> decided I wanted to put some ketchup on my scrambled eggs and
> homefries. So, I looked along the wall for the bottle of ketchup and
> opened it and started trying to get it to come out on the food.  A
> little drop did, then, it stopped.  The waitor asked why I didn't tell
> him I wanted him to do it.  I looked at him, sort-of.  Then, he said:
> "I know, you want to be independent".  I said, "No, I just wanna be
> me".  Personally, I never would have thought of asking. But my friend,
> eating breakfast with me, started feeling like she had to explain to
> me that a lot of people in my building don't know how to do things for
> themselves.  I really didn't need to be told that, and I didn't think
> it mattered for me.  Unfortunately, this diner is down the street from
> a buildingful of blind people, so the public gets to see some of the
> worst behavior.  I actually ended up having a tug-of-war with a
> waitor, a long time ago, to get the milk pitcher and the spoon out of
> his hand, so I could fix my own coffee before he made a mess of it.
> Most of them are getting to know enough to just bring me the coffee
> and the milk, the way they do everybody else who is not blind.  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: PLipovsky via BlindTlk
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> I agree unless it's really something noticeable.  It never ceases to
> amaze me how some visually impaired folks are not taught the proper
> manners or etiquette when growing up, such as eating with a knife and
> fork, not with your hands, chewing your food with your mouth open,
> etc.  parents that do this don't realize they are doing that child an
> injustice.
>
> When I was young, my Mom cut up my food for me until one day I told
> her I wanted to do it myself, and guess what, it wasn't that hard to
> do.  I know some that have a restaurant cut up their food for them all
> the time before it's brought out to the table.  I understand if a
> person simply prefers not to do that themselves, , but I don't think
> it present a good image of blind folks to the general public to do
> that.  Of course, I'm pretty independent and have always been that
> way, and do realize independence is different for everyone.
>
>
>
> be
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> It isn't easy.  If you don't know the person I would say it's best not
> to say anything.
>
>
> On 3/10/2020 3:10 PM, Sherri via BlindTlk wrote:
>> I appreciate this conversation.  For those who have children, you
>> know they are quick and not always so tactful about pointing out
>> things. This particular instance refers to the table manners of a
>> friend who was visiting.  It's a very sticky subject!  I would want
>> to be told if my manners offended someone so I could try to change
>> them.  I also appreciate being told if I have a shirt on that is
>> stained, dirty or see-through.  I would much rather know than have
>> people talk about it behind my back.  My mom was a stickler for good
>> manners, good hygiene, etc. and I am glad she was.  My question is
>> how do you tell someone without offending them?
>> Pat,
>> thanks for bringing this matter to our attention.
>>
>> Sherri
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> PLipovsky via BlindTlk
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>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] A question
>>
>> What I'm thinking is most people who don't know you probably won't
>> say anything.  If they know you, depending on how well you know each
>> other would probably determine whether or not they said anything.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Kevin via
>> BlindTlk
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>> It does depend on the social skills of the person telling you.
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/2020 12:41 PM, Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk wrote:
>>> It would depend on how they told me.  In most cases, I probably
>>> would thank them, and be glad they told me.  I was wearing a shirt
>>> that was able to be seen through.  A person told me, and I felt
>>> embarrassed because I didn't know, but I was grateful, and thanked
>>> her. Now, if the person was snarky about it, depending on how, that
>>> might make a difference in how I responded. Pam.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: PLipovsky via BlindTlk
>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 8:49 PM
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>>> Cc: PLipovsky
>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] A question
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I had a discussion about this with someone the other day, and
>>> thought I would throw it out to you to get your input..
>>>
>>> If a friend, or someone you know with vision told you there was a
>>> stain on your shirt, or your pants were dirty or wrinkled, would you
>>> get offended?
>>>
>>>
>>> Since I always try to look my best, especially when out in public, I
>>> personally would welcome that, in fact, I've told people if they see
>>> something not quite right to always let me know, as I would rather
>>> know so I can fix it rather than go around looking sloppy.
>>>
>>> Any opinions?
>>>
>>>
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