[BlindTlk] A question

[PLipovsky]

I agree totally.  

If you are not happy with your food, you have the right just like anyone else to request they bring you something that is satisfactory to you.


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From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Anitra Webber via BlindTlk
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 8:46 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Anitra Webber <anitrawebber at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] A question

That reminds me of time my friend and I both ordered a prime rib sandwich. When I got mine it was a pile of torn up bread and meat and nothing else. When I asked the waitress what that was, she told me that it was my sandwich cut in bite size pieces. She assumed that because they always did that for my friend I would also want that. I like my sandwich whole with stuff on it so they got to bring another one. I have been told that I was selfish to make them waste a sandwich and to discourage them from helping people with disabilities. But a sighted nondisabled person wouldn't be expected to accept that, and I don't think I should be either.

Anitra Webber 

    On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 4:56:36 PM MDT, Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:  
 
 This morning, when I went out to breakfast with a friend, I suddenly decided I wanted to put some ketchup on my scrambled eggs and homefries.  So, I looked along the wall for the bottle of ketchup and opened it and started trying to get it to come out on the food.  A little drop did, then, it stopped.  The waitor asked why I didn't tell him I wanted him to do it.  I looked at him, sort-of.  Then, he said:  "I know, you want to be independent".  I said, "No, I just wanna be me".  Personally, I never would have thought of asking.  But my friend, eating breakfast with me, started feeling like she had to explain to me that a lot of people in my building don't know how to do things for themselves.  I really didn't need to be told that, and I didn't think it mattered for me.  Unfortunately, this diner is down the street from a buildingful of blind people, so the public gets to see some of the worst behavior.  I actually ended up having a tug-of-war with a waitor, a long time ago, to get the milk pitcher and the spoon out of his hand, so I could fix my own coffee before he made a mess of it.  Most of them are getting to know enough to just bring me the coffee and the milk, the way they do everybody else who is not blind.  Pam.

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I agree unless it's really something noticeable.  It never ceases to amaze me how some visually impaired folks are not taught the proper manners or etiquette when growing up, such as eating with a knife and fork, not with your hands, chewing your food with your mouth open, etc.  parents that do this don't realize they are doing that child an injustice.

When I was young, my Mom cut up my food for me until one day I told her I wanted to do it myself, and guess what, it wasn't that hard to do.  I know some that have a restaurant cut up their food for them all the time before it's brought out to the table.  I understand if a person simply prefers not to do that themselves, , but I don't think it present a good image of blind folks to the general public to do that.  Of course, I'm pretty independent and have always been that way, and do realize independence is different for everyone.



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Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] A question

It isn't easy.  If you don't know the person I would say it's best not to say anything.


On 3/10/2020 3:10 PM, Sherri via BlindTlk wrote:
> I appreciate this conversation.  For those who have children, you know 
> they
> are quick and not always so tactful about pointing out things.  This
> particular instance refers to the table manners of a friend who was
> visiting.  It's a very sticky subject!  I would want to be told if my
> manners offended someone so I could try to change them.  I also appreciate
> being told if I have a shirt on that is stained, dirty or see-through.  I
> would much rather know than have people talk about it behind my back.  My
> mom was a stickler for good manners, good hygiene, etc. and I am glad she
> was.  My question is how do you tell someone without offending them?  Pat,
> thanks for bringing this matter to our attention.
>
> Sherri
>
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> via BlindTlk
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> What I'm thinking is most people who don't know you probably won't say
> anything.  If they know you, depending on how well you know each other 
> would
> probably determine whether or not they said anything.
>
>
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> BlindTlk
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> It does depend on the social skills of the person telling you.
>
>
> On 3/10/2020 12:41 PM, Pamela Dominguez via BlindTlk wrote:
>> It would depend on how they told me.  In most cases, I probably would
>> thank them, and be glad they told me.  I was wearing a shirt that was
>> able to be seen through.  A person told me, and I felt embarrassed
>> because I didn't know, but I was grateful, and thanked her.  Now, if
>> the person was snarky about it, depending on how, that might make a
>> difference in how I responded. Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: PLipovsky via BlindTlk
>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2020 8:49 PM
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>> Cc: PLipovsky
>> Subject: [BlindTlk] A question
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I had a discussion about this with someone the other day, and thought
>> I would throw it out to you to get your input..
>>
>> If a friend, or someone you know with vision told you there was a
>> stain on your shirt, or your pants were dirty or wrinkled, would  you
>> get offended?
>>
>>
>> Since I always try to look my best, especially when out in public, I
>> personally would welcome that, in fact, I've told people if they see
>> something not quite right to always let me know, as I would rather
>> know so I can fix it rather than go around looking sloppy.
>>
>> Any opinions?
>>
>>
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