[BlindTlk] [BlTlk] Fw: The Meaning of Independence?

[Jude DaShiell]

In that situation pure self-sufficiency will have to be  a prerequisite.
Real independence isn't taught by any of these blindness organizations.
Were that the case every graduate would have had to passed survival
training as in what the Outward Bound program does.  Such an addition were
it to happen would equip blind people to live as homeless people if such
an unfortunate circumstance become theirs.
Now I think of it, given the recent supreme court ruling on evictions and
the fact that blind community demographics are in the shape they are, it's
maybe unfortunate these independence programs didn't offer their graduates
such training.


On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, Judy Jones via BlindTlk wrote:

> Hahaha, that is the pure defintion of independence, as long as total self-sufficiency goes with it.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Saturday, August 28, 2021 07:43 PM
> To: Colleen McFadden via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> CC: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Fw: The Meaning of Independence?
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> If they ever do get independence fully working, they'll be able to put
> each independent blind person on their own planet as researchers and
> they'll get along just fine.
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> On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, Colleen McFadden via BlindTlk wrote:
> > I believe that we are all dependent on one another and it doesn't matter if
> > we have a disability or not;  we all have our weaknesses.
> >
> > Colleen
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory
> > McMahon via BlindTlk
> > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 5:07 PM
> > To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
> > Cc: Cory McMahon
> > Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Fw: The Meaning of Independence?
> >
> > Jen,
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> > By your definition, disabled people will never be "independent" as some of
> > us will forever be dependent upon mobility devices, transportation from
> > others, etc.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Cory McMahon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jen via BlindTlk
> > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 11:39 AM
> > To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Jen <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: [BlindTlk] Fw: The Meaning of Independence?
> >
> > So I've read "The Nature of Independence," which I think is a great speech.
> > But what does independence really mean? I think independence means doing
> > everything for yourself and never asking for or needing help again. Also -
> > independence is something you work on for a while, and then you have it, and
> > you're all set.
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