[BlindTlk] [BlTlk] Fw: The Meaning of Independence?

[Margaret Ricciardi]

Even sighted people need help sometimes.

Peggy & Dixie Marie

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> On Aug 28, 2021, at 11:47 PM, Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> In that situation pure self-sufficiency will have to be  a prerequisite.
> Real independence isn't taught by any of these blindness organizations.
> Were that the case every graduate would have had to passed survival
> training as in what the Outward Bound program does.  Such an addition were
> it to happen would equip blind people to live as homeless people if such
> an unfortunate circumstance become theirs.
> Now I think of it, given the recent supreme court ruling on evictions and
> the fact that blind community demographics are in the shape they are, it's
> maybe unfortunate these independence programs didn't offer their graduates
> such training.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, Judy Jones via BlindTlk wrote:
>> 
>> Hahaha, that is the pure defintion of independence, as long as total self-sufficiency goes with it.
>> 
>> Judy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Judy
>> sent from the Android BS6
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Saturday, August 28, 2021 07:43 PM
>> To: Colleen McFadden via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
>> CC: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Fw: The Meaning of Independence?
>> 
>> If they ever do get independence fully working, they'll be able to put
>> each independent blind person on their own planet as researchers and
>> they'll get along just fine.
>> 
>>> On Sat, 28 Aug 2021, Colleen McFadden via BlindTlk wrote:
>>> I believe that we are all dependent on one another and it doesn't matter if
>>> we have a disability or not;  we all have our weaknesses.
>>> 
>>> Colleen
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindTlk [mailto:blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cory
>>> McMahon via BlindTlk
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 5:07 PM
>>> To: 'Blind Talk Mailing List'
>>> Cc: Cory McMahon
>>> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] Fw: The Meaning of Independence?
>>> 
>>> Jen,
>>> 
>>> By your definition, disabled people will never be "independent" as some of
>>> us will forever be dependent upon mobility devices, transportation from
>>> others, etc.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Cory McMahon
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jen via BlindTlk
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2021 11:39 AM
>>> To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Jen <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: [BlindTlk] Fw: The Meaning of Independence?
>>> 
>>> So I've read "The Nature of Independence," which I think is a great speech.
>>> But what does independence really mean? I think independence means doing
>>> everything for yourself and never asking for or needing help again. Also -
>>> independence is something you work on for a while, and then you have it, and
>>> you're all set.
>>> 
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