[BlindTlk] [BlTlk] handwriting idea

Sat Jan 14 06:10:06 UTC 2023

Before I went to Overbrook School For The Blind, I got put in Gwenned
Academy Of Mercy.  I got shifted out of there real quick when the nuns
couldn't figure any way to teach me handwriting.  Look or don't, The
Babylonians wrote on clay tablets before Rome was a thing and those nuns
couldn't come up with a clue.  At that time, the Freund Board hadn't been
invented or patented yet.  That's what the screen board referred to in
earlier messages is called and it used two rubber bands to secure the
blank newsprint to the screen for writing.  I can use that if necessary
but I prefer more durable grooves to less durable dots.  Diabetes you
know, sensitivity in certain fingers goes but I make sure no blood sugar
testing gets done on my braille fingers since I still use braille both for
reading and writing to this day.

Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

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On Fri, 13 Jan 2023, Judy Jones via BlindTlk wrote:

> Jude, that sounds very interesting.  I think I remember seeing ashtrays like the one you described.
>
> I also learned to read printed letters as a tiny girl.  Do you remember the braille series books, in a series of three?  I had the first volume which featured capital print raised letters, I must have been in first grade, or before that actually.  I also would read any print I could get my hands on.  Dad was great, and he would have me read license plates.  If he saw raised print anywhere, he would say, take a look at this.  I was always eager to figure it out.  He even showed me raised print on appliances at friends' houses we visited.  Everyone was very supportive which fed into me wanting to continue.
>
> I'm glad to hear you are an optacon user, too.  There is nothing like one, and I use ours almost every day.  Just today, I read off the numbers on my new credit card, along with everyday mail.
>
> Judy
>
> ?Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings.?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindTlk <blindtlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2023 8:02 PM
> To: Ericka via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [BlindTlk] [BlTlk] handwriting idea
>
> I learned printed letters long before handwriting.  My mother bought me an alphabet ashtray that had the raised capital letters on and around the rim.  When I was at overbrook School For The Blind, I could read by touch the raised letter plaques on the walls.  On a field trip we went to Washington's Crossing and I started reading aloud the letters carved into the monument and that surprised many people.  High School education included cursive which I replaced with the marks method at A.E.B. and went on from there.  Learning to read with the optacon wasn't all that difficult with the background I had in reading printed letters.
> One thing to read in libraries with an optacon are caligraphy books.
> Those have much more than cursive in them and writing was lots easier to read scanning over the samples that came before cursive.  Spencerian a.k.a. stovepipe was one easy example.
>
>
>
> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>
> .
>
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2023, Ericka via BlindTlk wrote:
>
> > That?s really interesting Judy. I learned with all the cited kids. Well actually, my mom taught me how to print before I went to school. My uncle or great uncle shall I say made this felt book with large print typing. It was an alphabet book, and each letter of the alphabet could be fault in The material. What are you trying to say is that if you understand the word appliqu?, you?ll know what I mean. It was really thick kind of like braille paper that had these pieces of felt glued to them, and then traced with Nfbnet letter on each page. It also had a picture of some thing, so like H. would have a heart , Kay would have a kite eating an apple, S a son, etc. That way you could connect the two letters together with the picture. The large print was pretty easy for me to read at the time. Now the printing has faded but I still have the book. It was all capital letters for the alphabet pages but it was a good start . I think I got that when I was about preschool age. I don?t recall what different we did in special preschool for the visually impaired kids. I honestly have very little recollection. I remember one classmate and being called wiggle worm. I don?t get to see that classmate, particularly  much, but I still am a wiggle worm!
> >
> >
> >
> > Ericka Nelson
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 13, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Judy Jones via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Jude,
> > >
> > > I have never heard of this learning system, but would be interested to find out about it. Have you contacted Lions World about it, or googled for it?
> > >
> > > The letter j is not a triangle though. When writing it, you would use a a straight line down, with a slight flick of the wrist to the left, that gives the short bottom horizontal line.
> > >
> > > At CSDB, we were taught the circular rotating wrist movements one uses when writing, and how large or small that rotation should be.
> > >
> > > It is correct that handwriting can get sloppy, especially when you don't have any visual input. My way around that is to check myself with the optacon whenever I do write.
> > >
> > > We also had a thermoform book of all the cursive and print letters, large and small, plus punctuation. The original was made with solder, and you would learn which way to draw the letter, as you would feel the underside end of the solder and follow it with your finger as it loops and curls to the other end. The cursive letters also showed the connectors at the beginning and end of each so you would know how to join them when writing in cursive. The punctuation section showed a base-line and where the mark should go, such as, the apostrophe and quotes at the top, period and comma at the base-line, as examples.
> > >
> > > One way to write or print in a straight line is to use a clipboard with two rubber bands stretched across to form the upper and lower edges of a writing line. Your base-line would be the bottom rubber band you can slightly move as you go below the line. To change lines, you leap-frog the top band over and below the bottom band, forming your new line.
> > >
> > > This way, you can write on a full sheet of paper, index card, sticky note, envelope, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Judy
> > > sent from the Android HIMS BS6 braille tablet
> > >
> > > "Embrace each day with His mercies and blessings."
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jude DaShiell via BlindTlk <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Date: Friday, January 13, 2023 04:58 AM
> > > To: blindtlk at nfbnet.org
> > > CC: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> > > Subject: [BlindTlk] handwriting idea
> > >
> > > I was thinking about the handwriting system I had been taught at
> > > what was then Arkansas Enterprises For The blind now named Lions
> > > World International.  The system I learned was not cursive and this
> > > system has proved beneficial to this day.  One mistake I made was
> > > not writing down the braille directions to produce the letters and
> > > preserving those directions for future use.  I may be able to
> > > reproduce those directions anyway since those use the braille system
> > > to create the handwritten letters.  The letters resemble the Futura
> > > Italic Font.  One of the problems I had at that time when learning
> > > that system was how to document writing that went below the base line.  I think I figured that out now.
> > > First, use the 8 dot cell with 7 below the 3 and 8 below the 6.  The
> > > 3 and
> > > 6 are on the base line.  So for a capital j, I would use straight
> > > lines with no curves and would start at 3 and go 3,4,6,3,6 at this
> > > point we have to go below the base line so bb8,bb7,6 and the letter
> > > is finished.  If drawn correctly, it is a large right triangle with
> > > right angle on dot 6 side attached to a smaller right triangle below
> > > the base line.  I used bb followed by a number to tell any reader go
> > > below base line and the number immediately after the bb is your next
> > > destination.  For those that never learned this system of
> > > handwriting none of this will make sense.  I unlearned cursive since
> > > all I could do after much practice was sloppy cursive.  This new
> > > system is easily legible for others that see it for the first time
> > > and handwriting does not usually improve with age.  Now I think of
> > > it I'll put Sculpey on my shopping list and practice letters in that
> > > clay.  When I learned this system of handwriting, I didn't just learn my signature either.
> > >
> > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
> > > defense of liberty:
> > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > > .
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