[blparent] Useful Appliances

[Silvara]

I got mine from Independent Living aids. Mine is rather expensive but I 
think now they sell less expensive ones.  I think Maxiaids also has them. 
Scales are great for weighing meat and chicken.
 I like to separate my ground meat into 1 pound bags.     ***
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] Useful Appliances


> So where did you get that talking scale? V
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Silvara" <silvara at cox.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Useful Appliances
>
>
>>A talking kitchen scale is very useful. I used mine to weigh my baby's
>> formula. It was great instead of counting scoops.
>>     ***
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Useful Appliances
>>
>>
>>> Pippy.
>>> If you'll be formula-feeding your daughter, you can make the formula in
>>> bulk using a blender.
>>> We did this, and it's like making a milkshake, though you of course have
>>> to be very careful with the ratio of powder to water, the ratio is 1
>>> powder to 2 waters the size of the container doesn't matter, just be
>>> sure you use the same size container for both formula and water.
>>> I liked this method because I hated shaking bottles, always wondere d if
>>> I had it all shaken, and I was able to make several bottles at once
>>> meaning my daughter didn't have to wait.
>>> I just thought you'd be interested, and I am the only person I know who
>>> did this.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Pipi
>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 1:41 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Useful Appliances
>>>
>>> a magic bullet is a glorified blender basically. i use it to make milk
>>> shakes and smoothies. but also to chop garlic, grate cheese, grind
>>> coffee
>>> beans, and so much more. it comes with a juicer, regular blender
>>> container,
>>> 4 cups that you can make frozen margarita type drinks in, and  a few
>>> other
>>> containers. you just screw which ever blade you want to use on it and
>>> put it
>>> in the bass and push down.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 6:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Useful Appliances
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> What's a magic bullet?
>>>>
>>>> tammy
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Pipi" <blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:15 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Useful Appliances
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>i love my magic bullet.
>>>>> i really want an electric tea kettle. i really enjoy drinking tea now
>>> and
>>>>> the kettle on the stove takes forever.
>>>>> i've heard of a pasta cooker and want one but have never actually
>>> seen
>>>>> one
>>>>> before.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:25 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Useful Appliances
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's a kool tip!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: Allie <alliemartins at gmail.com
>>>>>>>To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:42:34 -0700
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Useful Appliances
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Did you know you can use the Forman grill for grilled cheese,
>>>>>>>too? Just butter each side of the sandwich, and set it on the
>>>>>>>grill.  Close it and give it about three to four minutes before
>>>>>>>you slide the sandwich off on to a plate.
>>>>>>>Note: the better quality bread tends not to get squished like the
>>>>>>>cheaper stuff.  If you don't care about squished sandwiches, then
>>>>>>>it works just as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-- Allie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com
>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:22:38 -0400
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How so?
>>>>>>>>Couldn't you just use the microwave?
>>>>>>>>Not trying to sound like a jerk, just trying to find some new
>>>>>>>ways to
>>>>>>>>perform some somewhat new tasks, and am curious to know how this
>>>>>>>makes
>>>>>>>>people's lives easier.
>>>>>>>>And, how do you know when what you've made is done? Recepees I've
>>>>>>>found
>>>>>>>>all say "until it's golden brown".
>>>>>>>>So, yes, this does tie into blindparenting, as my daughter loves
>>>>>>>grilled
>>>>>>>>cheese, and if I can find a device that will make other meal prep
>>>>>>>>easier, I'm all ears.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>[mailto:blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>Behalf
>>>>>>>>Of Tammy, Paul and Colyn
>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 1:03 PM
>>>>>>>>To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Check Wallmart or Target or some other place  like that.  I love
>>>>>>>mine!
>>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>>makes my life so much easier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Tammy
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com
>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:41 AM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tell me more.
>>>>>>>>> This sounds like what I neeed.
>>>>>>>>> Where do I get one? I've never even heard of this and have been
>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>>> to figure out a way to simplify the grilled cheese sandwich
>>>>>>>making
>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>> Where can I find this? And does it only do grilled cheese?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>Behalf
>>>>>>>>> Of Tammy, Paul and Colyn
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:37 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> It's a small appliance that makes really good sandwitches.  It
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>make
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> sandwitch like grilled cheese and then put it in the press  and
>>>>>>>turn
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> it will heat the sandwitch and six minutes later you'll have a
>>>>>>>really
>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>> sandwitch.  It's much better then using a frying pan, and the
>>>>>>>>> sandwitches
>>>>>>>>> come out better imo.  You can do two at a time so that makes my
>>>>>>>life
>>>>>>>>> easier
>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:10 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is a sandwich press?
>>>>>>>>>> Please share.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>> Of trishs
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 5:47 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When it gets low enough I twist the bag and fold it down over
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>> top.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised at how many other uses those twisties have.  I use
>>>>>>>>>> them to keep my small appliance cords tidy, (such as) bean
>>>>>>>>>> grinder, sandwich press, crock-pot, and my George Forman grills.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm constantly in my flat-wear drawer looking for one for my
>>>>>>>>>> frozen vegies.  Can I have yours, if you're not using them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 20:31:03 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thats what I do after I loose the tie in my pocket or on the
>>>>>>>>>> floor, I twist
>>>>>>>>>>>the end of the bag and then lay the rest of the bag under the
>>>>>>>>>> rest of the
>>>>>>>>>>>bread.  Smile.  V
>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net
>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:01 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do it the lazy way.  Just tuck the open end under the loaf on
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> refrigerator shelf.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's faith in himself.
>>>>>>>>>> To take
>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of that to break a man's spirit is devil's work.
>>> Take
>>>>>>>>>> care of
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> you are doing.  Take care.--George Bernard Shaw in "Candide"
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No not at all, I find when I tie it, I can't get it open
>>> without
>>>>>>>>>> tearing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Humf.  V
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, I never even thought of tying the bag.  Stupid
>>> huh?
>>>>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The darn ties always fall apart so we both tie the bag.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Allie" <alliemartins at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] Retying the Bread Bag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tend to tie it in a loose knot.  I always lose the darn
>>>>>>>>twisty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Allie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:53:37 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] marriage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lol.  My husband does that sometimes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Allie" <alliemartins at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] marriage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or, tying the bread bag in a knot isn't acceptable; you
>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always retie it with the twisty tie! Darn me if I didn't
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strangle my ex for that one ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Allie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:51:19 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] marriage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If htere is one person who is not willing to help
>>> salvage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and grow, if addiction becomes a detriment to the
>>> family,
>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is no other recourse.  In other words, if the addiciton
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unaddressed by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the person addicted.  I have heard of a woman who stood
>>> by
>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was severely addicted to pornography while he dealth
>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a case by case basis, but no matter what the problem is,
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>separation, both parties are still married and not free
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> enter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>another relationship until the marriage is dissolved.
>>> And,
>>>>>>>>>> petty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>who does more around the house and which way the toilet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deffinitely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't be cause for divorce.  ----- Original Message
>>>>>>>>-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] marriage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't have said it better myself!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Dena Wainwright" <autumnrose21 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>><blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:42 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] marriage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow...Only infidelity, huh? What about physical
>>> abuse,
>>>>>>>>>> criminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activities,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a partner who totally abandons the relationship and
>>> is
>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unaddressed addictions or psychological illnesses, a
>>>>>>>>> partner
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refuses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work on the relationship, etc.? it must be nice to
>>> have
>>>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all these neat, little boxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I'd rather deal with a partner who was
>>>>>>>>>> unfaithful to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came clean about it, and actually expressed true
>>> remorse
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to heal the relationship, than many of the
>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through.  I don't think we're setting a good example
>>> for
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> children by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raising them in homes filled with unhappiness and
>>>>>>>>conflict,
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> teaching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them that it's OK to let other people treat us like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trash,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refuse to admit we've made a mistake in choosing a
>>>>>>>>partner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I totally agree that once kids are involved, we owe
>>> it to
>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ourselves, to do everything possible to work things
>>> out.
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people divorce (and marry) too quickly.  I'm not
>>> saying
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your bags after an argument about who does more
>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever, but every relationship contains two people.
>>>>>>>>>> Unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *both*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are committed, and *both* people are willing to do
>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship survive, it simply can't.  These
>>> definitive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statements about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what constitutes an acceptable reason for divorce are
>>>>>>>>>> judgmental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's not our place to point fingers at other people's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationships and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide whether *we* think they are salvageable or
>>>>>>>>>> legitimate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why? it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our relationship.  we're not living their life every
>>> day.
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough unresolved issues of our own to focus on.
>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationships are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally different when out of the public eye.  I've
>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> direct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with many people who appear (to outsiders) to be "the
>>>>>>>>>> perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partner,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when no one is watching, the story is very different.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dena
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:56 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May (unmarried
>>>>>>>>> parents)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, people need to understand, and I mean
>>> continuously
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about and consider what their vows say.  Too many
>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's too easy to bail out during hard times, when it
>>>>>>>>isn't
>>>>>>>>>> fun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and funny any more.  Hence better or worse (in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interpretation.)  They don't understand or take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact that by entering into this institution, they do
>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until death, no matter what accept infidelity.  You
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> duration.  No matter how rich or poor you are or
>>> become,
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter how ill one is or becomes, this includes all
>>>>>>>>>> illnesses,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the while forsaking ALL others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:12:46 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May (unmarried
>>>>>>>>>> parents)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What if both are not willing to work things out?
>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>disagreements come up after the couple is married
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> children?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There are a lot of "shoulds" that might be nice in
>>> an
>>>>>>>>> ideal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world, but as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>far as I can see, the world we live in isn't ideal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Many
>>>>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>good in theory get a little blurry in practice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's faith in
>>>>>>>>>> himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>advantage of that to break a man's spirit is devil's
>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>> Take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you are doing.  Take care.--George Bernard Shaw in
>>>>>>>>>> "Candide"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May (unmarried
>>>>>>>>>> parents)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps not, but in my opinion, only two things
>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> end a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mariage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infidelity, and abuse to spouse and children.
>>>>>>>>>> Communication
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked out if both are willing.  If there are
>>> major
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagreements, such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to discipline children, the two should never
>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> maried,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely not have children.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>> (unmarried
>>>>>>>>>> parents)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I suppose in a legal sense, the marriage license
>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for two families, or rather for his wife and
>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> children.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe what truly makes him responsible is that
>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't stay in a marriage that was no longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workable,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclined to support his children from that
>>> marriage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> financially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divorce is filed as he is now.  He'll be just as
>>>>>>>>likely
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his wife's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> car or her kitchen sink when she is legally his
>>> ex
>>>>>>>>> wife.
>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marriage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> license
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in itself doesn't make a caring person, any more
>>> than
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divorce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a jerk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's faith
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of that to break a man's spirit is
>>> devil's
>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are doing.  Take care.--George Bernard Shaw
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> "Candide"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks"
>>> <elizabethcooks at comcast.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>> (unmarried
>>>>>>>>>> parents)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But at the moment, he is technically still
>>> married,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself responsible for two families.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:08 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>> (unmarried
>>>>>>>>>> parents)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I got married when I was twenty years old.  At
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>marriage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningful to me on an emotional level.  I made
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> lifetime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commitment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship that later ended.  It wasn't my
>>> choice
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marriage,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose after all these years, that's neither
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ended,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in any case.  I'm happy for anybody who truly
>>> sees
>>>>>>>>>> marriage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sacred
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special part of life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess at this point, I see commitment as
>>> sacred.
>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> married
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will be primarily for legal reasons.  If he
>>> were
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visit me in the hospital as immediate family,
>>> like
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intensive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could make medical decisions for me if I
>>> couldn't
>>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself.  He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be first in line with Sarah to inherit
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> house
>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paying on,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else I had that was worth money.
>>> Those
>>>>>>>>>> advantages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marriage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be helpful, perhaps even in raising a
>>> child.
>>>>>>>>>> But the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benefits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a committed relationship, in my
>>> opinion--teamwork,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unconditional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support for each other, etc--aren't necessarily
>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a marriage license.  And they aren't
>>> necessarily
>>>>>>>>>> absent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just my take on things,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's
>>> faith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of that to break a man's spirit is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devil's
>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are doing.  Take care.--George Bernard Shaw
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Candide"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M."
>>>>>>>>> <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:30 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>> (unmarried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parents)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This has always boggled my mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To me, marriage is " a piece of paper" the way
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> birth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certificate isa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of paper, or the deed to my house is a
>>> piece
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my paycheck is a piece of paper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure, you can accomplish the same things with
>>> many
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pieces
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper, I've just never understood the thought
>>>>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can somebody explain?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A marriage can be disolved, alebeit painfully,
>>> but
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationship as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parents cannot be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why people would choose to
>>> have
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>> child
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose to coparent but not be married,
>>> assumming
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marriage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option.  It is not for homosexuals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anybody explain the logic behind your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decition?
>>>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never "gotten".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>>>> blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of kate02 at bellsouth.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (unmarried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parents)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just don't see the point of marriage.  It
>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people decide to have a relationship and
>>> children
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result, its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the two people to decide if their going to
>>> raze
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> child
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not.  The thing is that I've never understood
>>> why
>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple Pease of paper.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are just so many combinations of how
>>>>>>>>> consenting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose to have a relationship and the one size
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fits
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to me at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it works for others and their happy then
>>> good,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having an issue when Marriage is placed on a
>>>>>>>>> pedestal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationships.  Its like when Clay and I go to
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>> fore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daughter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and people ask if we're married and we say no.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said some thing really bad.  Personally from
>>> what
>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friends and other people around, it makes me
>>>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marriage will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even be around in the next 25 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------- Original message
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: trishs <slosser at metrocast.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately for me, I'm feeling that
>>> marriage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe that's not the right phrase.  Perhaps
>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under-respected?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto"
>>> <jopinto at pcdesk.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sent: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:03:34 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>>>>>>>(unmarried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>parents)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm always happy for people whose lives
>>> follow a
>>>>>>>>>> fairly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> predictable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pattern--you know, first comes love, then
>>> comes
>>>>>>>>>> marriage,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comes mama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with a baby carriage.  My life has never
>>> really
>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>predictable, though, and I guess it's made me
>>> who
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>> am.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>There were a few things I had to consider
>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>birth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since I wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>married to the father of the baby.  The first
>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asked to fill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>out a form that declared Gerald as the
>>> father.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>He
>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with doing that.  I'm not sure it's
>>> absolutely
>>>>>>>>>> necessary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mine who didn't want to declare a father for
>>> her
>>>>>>>>>> baby was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wouldn't be eligible for certain government
>>>>>>>>> benefits
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't list a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>father, or give possible names of people who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>could
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paternity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It had to do with child support payments, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>think,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> state will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>try to get money from fathers if their
>>> children
>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> welfare system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The other thing was, I stated in my birth
>>> plan
>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gerald to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed to stay with me at all times,
>>> including
>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>exams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>operating room, if that became necessary,
>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>> did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my wishes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>clear because I didn't want there to be any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doubt,
>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't a husband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or family member under many hospital
>>> visitation
>>>>>>>>>> policies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospitals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are probably pretty used to unmarried parents
>>>>>>>>these
>>>>>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>few things to think about if you haven't done
>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old-fashioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's
>>> faith
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>advantage of that to break a man's spirit is
>>>>>>>>> devil's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you are doing.  Take care.--George Bernard
>>> Shaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Candide"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn"
>>> <tcl189 at rogers.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:14 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess my definition of a committed
>>>>>>>>relationship
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people's definition.  I am also having a
>>> baby
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soon-to-be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the situation is similar to yours in that
>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divorce bit by bit.  I finally had enough
>>> to go
>>>>>>>>>> ahead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I finally got my divorce order in the mail,
>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> we'll be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> married
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the baby comes in February.  But
>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> because we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> married
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't mean I'm any less committed to him.
>>> It
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took responsability for his child even
>>> though
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could even get pregnant, and obviously
>>> you're
>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relationhship and to raising your daughter
>>>>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are going well for all of you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto"
>>> <jopinto at pcdesk.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:30 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The short version of the story is, I went
>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infertility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treatments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost a baby with my ex husband, and we
>>> both
>>>>>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After we got divorced in 2002, I was out
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> baby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking for another relationship.  When
>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our friendship one day, I didn't worry
>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> precautions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been told I couldn't have children, and I
>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> eight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prove it.  I got pregnant after just that
>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encounter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure I was ready for a committed
>>> relationship,
>>>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> December.  We're happy now, and raising
>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> daughter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having his son and occasionally his older
>>>>>>>>>> daughter at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> married because Gerald's divorce from his
>>> wife
>>>>>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finalized yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was out of work for several months
>>> during
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to make sure she's well on her feet again
>>>>>>>>before
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> papers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're a couple, just not a married couple,
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surprise baby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more ways than one.  But I wouldn't have
>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody is getting adjusted.  My baby is
>>> a
>>>>>>>>> joy,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thankful every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have had her after I'd put that dream
>>> aside
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a
>>> man's
>>>>>>>>> faith
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of that to break a man's spirit
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> devil's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are doing.  Take care.--George Bernard
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaw
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Candide"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M."
>>>>>>>>>> <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth's post has got me curious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth, I've gathered from this
>>> post
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not in a commited relationship.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I'm wondering, why the fertility drugs
>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> opposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artificially inseminated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can understand an oops pregnancy, and I
>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single mother, but why go to the trouble
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> fertility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treatments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't have a partner who wants to be
>>> ap
>>>>>>>>>> arent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I must confess to being very curious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With us, we concieved our daughter the
>>> old
>>>>>>>>>> fashioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy was confirmed via blood test.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces+rebecca.pickrell=ngc.com at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I got a positive home pregnancy
>>> test, I
>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought the person who told me it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive
>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to read
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it right.  So I got another test, and it
>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half convinced that the doctor's office
>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> tell me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregnant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I went for my first appointment, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spite
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sickness I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was having and the fact that I'd missed
>>> two
>>>>>>>>>> menstrual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was far enough along to be showing, I
>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dreams that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was all an illusion, and I wasn't
>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> pregnant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blessed.  Sarah is in her exersaucer next
>>> to
>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> squealing as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she bounces and plays with the toys on
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> tray,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those "I'm so amazed I actually gave
>>> birth to
>>>>>>>>>> her"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened periodically over the months.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a
>>> man's
>>>>>>>>>> faith in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of that to break a man's spirit
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> devil's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you are doing.  Take care.--George
>>>>>>>>Bernard
>>>>>>>>>> Shaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Candide"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:57
>>> AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The disappointment each month was so
>>>>>>>>> consuming.
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Dr says, you're pregnant, you think
>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their mind.  I know I did.  It took us 9
>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miscarry at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 weeks and then another 7 years, which
>>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fertility drugs.  V
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto"
>>>>>>>><jopinto at pcdesk.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 11:27
>>> AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be.  The disappointment of
>>> trying
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was overwhelming.  It almost seemed
>>> like
>>>>>>>>> magic
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conceived
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without having given it a thought at
>>> all,
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a
>>> man's
>>>>>>>>>> faith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To take
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage of that to break a man's
>>> spirit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devil's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of what you are doing.  Take
>>> care.--George
>>>>>>>>>> Bernard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Candide"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008
>>> 10:49 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in
>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I wonder if "Giving up" helped, as you
>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> left the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>conceiving behind you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto"
>>>>>>>>>> <jopinto at pcdesk.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>> List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sent: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:38:47 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in
>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Struggling to have a baby makes a
>>> woman
>>>>>>>>tend
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>appreciate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>went through eight years of
>>> unsuccessful
>>>>>>>>>> fertility
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>treatment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>baby, and I felt truly blessed when I
>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>surprised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>after I'd given up.  I felt like I was
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> partner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>God
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miracle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>man's
>>>>>>>>>> faith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>himself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>advantage of that to break a man's
>>> spirit
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>devil's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care of what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you are doing.  Take care.--George
>>> Bernard
>>>>>>>>>> Shaw in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Candide"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Veronica Smith"
>>>>>>>>>> <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>> List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:34
>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in
>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't know about you all, but when
>>> I
>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pregnant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weighed about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 140 and when I delivered I weighed
>>> 205.
>>>>>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened though, i was sick for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> craved peanut butter anything.
>>> (lol) No
>>>>>>>>>> wonder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "huge." My
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband said i was the happiest
>>> pregnant
>>>>>>>>>> woman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> took me 16 years to get pregnant and
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stay
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smiled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even when it was darn hot riding in
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> bus
>>>>>>>>>> 22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jeri Milton"
>>> <jjmilton at cox.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> List'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008
>>> 2:54 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting in
>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tammy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know exactly how you feel.  I
>>> shutter
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to weigh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of nine months.  It's all
>>> well
>>>>>>>>>> worth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husband though,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I need him to help motivate me
>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baby,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> butt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the treadmill that is setting in
>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used as a hat rack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> blparent-bounces+jjmilton=cox.net at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces+jjmilton=cox.net at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Tammy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul and Colyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5:24
>>>>>>>>>> AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>> List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't feel too bad about that.
>>> When I
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregnant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colyn I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to wear them before 20 weeks, but
>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> sure a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to squeeze myself into
>>> clothes
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stretch to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore.  And when I say nothing
>>> fits,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the beginning of this month I am
>>> going
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bigger clothes.  I'm kind of mixed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prospect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm finally showing, but I know I'm
>>>>>>>>going
>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of it all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'm not looking forward to
>>> trying
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the weight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've gained.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jeri Milton"
>>> <jjmilton at cox.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>>>>>>>List'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1:00
>>>>>>>>>> AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tammy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm jealous because I had to wear
>>>>>>>>>> maturnity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clothes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 weeks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I was pregnant with Dyl.
>>> Looks
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again.  Oh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess it's part of the territory
>>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> blparent-bounces+jjmilton=cox.net at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces+jjmilton=cox.net at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul and Colyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008
>>> 1:50
>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>> List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting
>>> in
>>>>>>>>May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're jealous?  Why?  Nothing
>>> fits
>>>>>>>>>> anymore!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jeri Milton"
>>> <jjmilton at cox.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>>>>>>>> List'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008
>>> 1:03
>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting
>>> in
>>>>>>>>May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, I'm so jealous!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> blparent-bounces+jjmilton=cox.net at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces+jjmilton=cox.net at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul and Colyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008
>>> 7:17
>>>>>>>>> AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>> List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for telling me this.  It
>>> makes
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy new clothes.  smile
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Dena Wainwright"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <autumnrose21 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>>>>>>>List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008
>>> 5:48
>>>>>>>>> AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Expecting
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I started having to wear the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>maternity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>clothes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>time of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ultrasound as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dena
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tcl189 at rogers.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents
>>> Mailing
>>>>>>>>> List"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:45
>>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent]
>>> Expecting in
>>>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm feeling really good now,
>>>>>>>>although
>>>>>>>>>> I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fitting in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clothes which is a bit sad and
>>>>>>>>>> exciting at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ultrasound next week and
>>> hopefully
>>>>>>>>>> we'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both think it's a girl, but I
>>> guess
>>>>>>>>>> we'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jeri Milton"
>>>>>>>><jjmilton at cox.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents
>>> Mailing
>>>>>>>>>> List'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 14,
>>> 2008
>>>>>>>>7:50
>>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent]
>>> Expecting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Tammy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By the way how are you
>>> feeling?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We saw my friend today who is
>>> due
>>>>>>>>>> with her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> baby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> six
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her tummy, I started to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excited
>>>>>>>>>> for us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> blparent-bounces+jjmilton=cox.net at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces+jjmilton=cox.net at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul and Colyn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 13,
>>> 2008
>>>>>>>>>> 11:19
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents
>>> Mailing
>>>>>>>>> List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent]
>>> Expecting
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations Gerri!  That's
>>>>>>>>great
>>>>>>>>>> news!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jeri Milton"
>>>>>>>>> <jjmilton at cox.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents
>>> Mailing
>>>>>>>>>> List'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 14,
>>> 2008
>>>>>>>>> 1:08
>>>>>>>>>> AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] Expecting
>>> in
>>>>>>>>May
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello List.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel it's time to let you
>>> all
>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are also pregnant!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seven weeks along now.  I
>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information until I am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit further along, but I
>>> couldn't
>>>>>>>>>> stand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excited, but I don't think it
>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the first three
>>> months
>>>>>>>>>> before I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though.  So far everything is
>>>>>>>>going
>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our first ultrasound on
>>> October
>>>>>>>>> 8th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your
>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/tcl189%40rogers.co
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your
>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jjmilton%40cox.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your
>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/tcl189%40rogers.co
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your
>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> options or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/autumnrose21%40gma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> il.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>>>>>>>>> options or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/tcl189%40rogers.co
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jjmilton%40cox.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/tcl189%40rogers.co
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>>>>>>>options
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jjmilton%40cox.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>>>>>>>options
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/tcl189%40rogers.co
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>> or get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jjmilton%40cox.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>>>> or get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/madison_tewe%40spi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nn.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming
>>> message.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 270.7.0/1680 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9/19/2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8:25 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>> options
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jopinto%40pcdesk.n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>______________________________________
>>> _____
>>>>>>>>_
>>>>>>>>> _
>>>>>>>>>> __
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo
>>> /blpa
>>>>>>>>r
>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>> nt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, change your list
>>> options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for blparent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/
>>> blpar
>>>>>>>>e
>>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>>>> t/slosser%40metro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>> options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jopinto%40pcdesk.n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list
>>> options or
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/madison_tewe%40spi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nn.n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database:
>>>>>>>>> 270.7.0/1682
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9/20/2008
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10:24 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options
>>> or
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jopinto%40pcdesk.n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options
>>> or
>>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/rebecca.pickrell%4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0ngc.co
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options
>>> or
>>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jopinto%40pcdesk.n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options
>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/tcl189%40rogers.co
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or
>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jopinto%40pcdesk.n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>_____________________________________________
>>> __
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blpare
>>> nt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or
>>> get
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>info
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for blparent:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparen
>>> t/slo
>>>>>>>>s
>>>>>>>>> s
>>>>>>>>>> er%40metrocas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or
>>> get
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/kate02%40bellsouth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or
>>> get
>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/rebecca.pickrell%4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0ngc.co
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or
>>> get
>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jopinto%40pcdesk.n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/elizabethcooks%40c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> omcast.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get
>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/jopinto%40pcdesk.n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> et
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get
>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blparent/elizabethcooks%40c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> omcast.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent
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