[blparent] Noisy shoes

Fri Nov 14 23:50:55 UTC 2008

I remember getting really angry at a mobility teacher when I was a little 
girl for asking where my cane was when I hit my head on the corner of a 
counter that extended all the way to the floor.  I should have been using my 
cane, but I was hurt, and I felt like she didn't care.  I remember that to 
this day.

Jo Elizabeth

It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's faith in himself. To take 
advantage of that to break a man's spirit is devil's work. Take care of what 
you are doing. Take care.--George Bernard Shaw in "Candide"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

> that has happened to all of us.  At the orientation center I ran into a 
> big sign and cracked open my lip and all my mobility instructor had to 
> say, and where was your cane. hahaha! V
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>
>
>> JThey do have a mobility teacher.  I'm trying to see if I can create the
>> desire to want to use one by allowing them to go out to the bus all by
>> themselves.  Of course, I still have to go out and herd them in the right
>> direction but I don't think until the snow comes will they even have
>> problems.  The only thing right now is that they sometimes run into the 
>> door
>> of the bus.  We tell them to put out their hands but if they do hit it I
>> tell them that if they'd use their canes that wouldn't happen.
>> Barbara
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:30 PM
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>
>>> As much as I hate to say it, maybe he needs to let his actions and
>>> choices teach him, either getin g hurt or embarrassed due to not using
>>> his cane.
>>> Have you hada mobility instructor work with him? If not, why not?
>>> There has to be a better way.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Tammy, Paul and Colyn
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 1:11 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> If he doesn't know or has no concept of how and why to use a cane then
>>> he shouldn't be  using one.  As for holding on to your cane, there has
>>> to be a better more safe way to travel with your children.  Not only are
>>> you putting yourself in danger when you let your child hold on to your
>>> cane,  but your children are also in danger if you don't use safe
>>> methods of traveling.
>>>
>>> Tammy
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:21 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>
>>>
>>>> And that is a problem we do have.  He refuses to use it correctly so
>>> it's
>>>> a good thing I know our block and other places where I have him do
>>> that.
>>>> Once in a while I do run into things or trip, but he has to learn
>>> somehow.
>>>> Got any ideas how to get him to hold his own cane.  We've tried
>>> fastening
>>>> it in his hand but he hates that.  The teaching cane is the best
>>> method
>>>> I've found so far.  I'm not bragging when I say I'm a very good
>>> traveler
>>>> who is very aware of my surroundings because I'm not brave at all when
>>> it
>>>> comes to new situations.
>>>> Barbara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Dena Wainwright" <autumnrose21 at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:12 AM
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>
>>>>> having a child hold onto your cane doesn't seem especially effective
>>> or
>>>>> safe to me... how can you get accurate info with someone holding it?
>>>>> also, what if he lets go?
>>>>> Dena
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally, instead of holding your cane, you should have your child
>>>
>>>>>> hold onto your pants or belt loop. V
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:55 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The leashes we have are just harnesses with the leash attached.
>>> They
>>>>>>> fasten
>>>>>>> with velcro in the back.  They're kind of tricky to figure out
>>> though.
>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>> have to get the child's arms through in the right place.  We don't
>>> use
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> often but if I take the twins alone I take one on a leash and the
>>> other
>>>>>>> holds onto my cane.  I've even tied the one's cane to his leash so
>>> we
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> have to spend forever looking for it if he drops it or throws it.
>>> Now
>>>>>>> looking for cane tips?  That's a different story.  So far I've
>>> found
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> when the pop off.
>>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:05 PM
>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I only had the opportunity to use it once and it was a real leash
>>> that
>>>>>>>> belonged to our husky.  Gab thought it great fun to wear Shelby's
>>>>>>>> leash as
>>>>>>>> we made our way through a very busy airport in Las Angelas.  I
>>> don't
>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>> what others think as long as my child is safe. V
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:06 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've gotten comments on the leash I use for my daughter, and
>>> they've
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> been positive.
>>>>>>>>> Really though, I don't much care, because as parents, it is our
>>> job
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> keep our kids safe, while still providing them and ourselves
>>>>>>>>> oppertunities to get out and about.
>>>>>>>>> Your husband doesn't have to like the leash, but he does need to
>>> keep
>>>>>>>>> his child safe. Liking the leash is not a requirement for *using*
>>> a
>>>>>>>>> leash.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Melissa Ann Riccobono
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:30 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] Noisy shoes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Shannon,
>>>>>>>>> I wasn't thrilled about the squeaking shoes either, so I put
>>> bells on
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> son's shoes.  They are noisy, but at least it's a pleasant noise
>>> to
>>>>>>>>> listen to.  As for leashes, at least in the US, they sell really
>>> cute
>>>>>>>>> ones that are a small backpack that looks like an animal (we have
>>> a
>>>>>>>>> monkey) and the tail of the animal is the leash.  Austin still
>>> loves
>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>> (not all kids do, of
>>>>>>>>> course) and has even named it.  Maybe I get stares when I'm out
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> public, but at least I know Austin is safe.  And, I've received a
>>> ton
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> comments about how cute the leash is, and even what a good idea
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>>> Melissa
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