[blparent] Noisy shoes

Fri Nov 21 00:49:03 UTC 2008

They save their worst behavior for they's mommys!

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com
>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:49:53 -0600
>Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>The purpose would be to guide him with a cane handle instead of 
my hand.  We
>had teacher conferences the other day and found out that Jesse 
doesn't
>caning perfectly for the O&M person.  It's just proves that he 
can do it but
>just doesn't want to.
>Barbara

>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com
>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:30 PM
>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>> Hi,
>> What's the point of using a cane at all if one end is in your 
hand and the
>> other end is in his hand?  How effective would that be since the 
purpose
>> of a cane is to feel what's  on the ground?

>> Tammy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>> He has one his own size if he's going to use it on the ground.  
A broken
>>> one would make the distance between us much shorter if the other 
end is
>>> in my hand instead of on the ground.
>>> Barbara

>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:31 PM
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>> And, why does it need to be a broken one?  Get him one his own 
size, for
>>>> crying out loud.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at worldnet.att.net
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 1:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>> Barbara,

>>>>> Could you try carrying a cane for yourself with one hand and 
holding a
>>>>> cane with your son using the other hand?  Is that at all 
feasible?

>>>>> Debbie

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:18 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>> Only light perception and color.  They have no choice but to 
learn
>>>>>> cane use or always hold someone's hand.  If he'd hold his cane, 
I
>>>>>> could hold his other hand for security and put the leash for the 
other
>>>>>> on my cane hand or through a belt loop or something.  I'd figure 
it
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>> Barbara

>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>>> Barbara, they know enough to make that choice of using a cane or 
not.
>>>>>>> thats why I thought they could show you, thus making a good 
choice.
>>>>>>> What is there acuity right now.  V
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com
>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:59 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>>>> It's a modeling technique to teach him.  Both the boys could use
>>>>>>>> canes if
>>>>>>>> they chose to.  Right now they just don't see the need for them.
>>>>>>>> But in
>>>>>>>> order to be somewhat independent travelers they cannot depend on 
a
>>>>>>>> hand or
>>>>>>>> arm in their hand.  I want them to be active movers.
>>>>>>>> Barbara

>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:15 PM
>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> Who told you to teach him to use a cane that way?  It doesn't 
seem
>>>>>>>>> like it
>>>>>>>>> would be very effective, especially when he won't hold on to his
>>>>>>>>> own cane.

>>>>>>>>> Tammy
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com
>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:14 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>>>>>> He holds onto my cane as a teaching cane because he won't hold 
on
>>>>>>>>>> to his
>>>>>>>>>> own.
>>>>>>>>>> Barbara

>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:30 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, instead of holding your cane, you should have your
>>>>>>>>>>> child
>>>>>>>>>>> hold onto your pants or belt loop.  V
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:55 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>>>>>>>> The leashes we have are just harnesses with the leash attached.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>>>> fasten
>>>>>>>>>>>> with velcro in the back.  They're kind of tricky to figure out
>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>> have to get the child's arms through in the right place.  We
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't use
>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>> often but if I take the twins alone I take one on a leash and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the other
>>>>>>>>>>>> holds onto my cane.  I've even tied the one's cane to his leash
>>>>>>>>>>>> so we
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> have to spend forever looking for it if he drops it or throws
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.  Now
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking for cane tips?  That's a different story.  So far I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>> when the pop off.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Barbara

>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I only had the opportunity to use it once and it was a real
>>>>>>>>>>>>> leash that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> belonged to our husky.  Gab thought it great fun to wear
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shelby's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> leash as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we made our way through a very busy airport in Las Angelas.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what others think as long as my child is safe.  V
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:06 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've gotten comments on the leash I use for my daughter, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been positive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really though, I don't much care, because as parents, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our job
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep our kids safe, while still providing them and ourselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oppertunities to get out and about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your husband doesn't have to like the leash, but he does need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his child safe.  Liking the leash is not a requirement for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *using* a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leash.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Melissa Ann Riccobono
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:30 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] Noisy shoes

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shannon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't thrilled about the squeaking shoes either, so I put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bells on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> son's shoes.  They are noisy, but at least it's a pleasant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noise to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listen to.  As for leashes, at least in the US, they sell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really cute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones that are a small backpack that looks like an animal (we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monkey) and the tail of the animal is the leash.  Austin still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (not all kids do, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course) and has even named it.  Maybe I get stares when I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public, but at least I know Austin is safe.  And, I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> received a ton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments about how cute the leash is, and even what a good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melissa

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