[blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

Elizabeth Cooks elizabethcooks at comcast.net
Mon Oct 27 11:56:51 UTC 2008


Since when did teaching manners become a personal decision?  I remember when 
I was in preschool, saying please and thank you was enforced
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!


> My sister teaches kindergarten.  I'm sure she would agree that most 
> in-service days are essentially wasted.  However, parents, as well as 
> teachers, are tough to deal with.  My sister had one student in her class 
> who was going around kicking the other kids.  She asked his parents to 
> quit letting him wear cowboy boots to school before he really hurt 
> somebody, and they said his behavior was her fault because she wasn't 
> keeping the little brat busy enough, or challenging him enough.  Another 
> time, a group of parents got mad at her for asking the students each to 
> put a chair up on the tables as they were leaving for the day.  The 
> parents said that was the janitor's job, and their children weren't 
> growing up to be janitors.  My sister got marked down on a year-end 
> evaluation for making the kids say "please" and "thank you" in her 
> classroom, because some parents said that teaching manners wasn't up to 
> her and whether their kids said "please" and "thank you" was a personal 
> decision.  She said to go ahead and mark her down every year then, because 
> kids needed to learn some social graces, and she didn't want to have a 
> classroom full of monkeys.  But that's the kind of stuff she deals with in 
> public school.
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's faith in himself. To take 
> advantage of that to break a man's spirit is devil's work. Take care of 
> what you are doing. Take care.--George Bernard Shaw in "Candide"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>
>
>> this is why my niece stopped being a teacher.  she said too many parents 
>> and the private school body expected her to teach the children manners, 
>> how to use a tissue to blow noses and the other stuff you mentioned. As 
>> far as the inservice days, i always wondered what in the world they learn 
>> every Wednesday, "their inservice day." v
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>
>>
>>> Just look at how much time the teachers spend learning mostly worthless
>>> things during inservice time that is during the school day when the 
>>> children
>>> should be at school.  Also look at some of the things they're teaching
>>> instead of reading, writing and arithmetic.  For goodness sake, why are 
>>> the
>>> children learning about political correctness and ethics and morals? 
>>> Isn't
>>> teaching morals and ethics our job as a parent?  First and foremost, I 
>>> want
>>> the school to help me make my child knowledgeable.  I don't want them
>>> teaching my child how to be a citizen of the world.
>>> I'll get off my soapbox before I offend even more people than I've 
>>> already
>>> offended so far.  Sorry in advance,it's just what I think.
>>> |Barbara
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:41 PM
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>
>>>> Hard to believe that this country ranks last in education!
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>Date sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:06:09 -0600
>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>>
>>>>>Congratulations on your first teacher conference.  I am weird, I
>>>> really love
>>>>>going and findout what kinds of stuff the kids are doing.  when i
>>>> used to
>>>>>volunteer in Gab's class I used to see what they were doing from
>>>> week to
>>>>>week.  This is the first year the teacher didn't need or want me
>>>> in the
>>>>>class, so next week we're going to the parent teacher conference
>>>> and I can't
>>>>>wait to see what's happening.  I know that Gab is doing well,
>>>> bringing home
>>>>>90's and 100's on her spelling tests.  Boy they had big words for
>>>> third
>>>>>graders today- excitability, gingerbread, generation, celebrate,
>>>> forceps,
>>>>>circular, centimeter, there is more, but ican't remember the
>>>> list.  V
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Eileen" <eileenlevin at comcast.net
>>>>>To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:41 PM
>>>>>Subject: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I just had my first parent teacher conference for kindergarten
>>>> and I am
>>>>>> in shock! The teacher sat for ten minutes just showing us all
>>>> the
>>>>>> material the class
>>>>>> has covered in the first 4 weeks of class.  They are expected to
>>>> know all
>>>>>> the letter names and sounds, rhyming,  write their name, and
>>>> other
>>>>>> things that
>>>>>> I can't even remember now.
>>>>
>>>>>> Each child is working on a monthly calendar,  personal essays
>>>> and they
>>>>>> not only discuss activities they form sentences about it as a
>>>> group on
>>>>>> the board.
>>>>
>>>>>> Wow! When I was working with Asher on learning to read I had no
>>>> idea
>>>>>> that he would be using all those skills  immediately.
>>>>
>>>>>> All the preschool told me was that he needed to work on lower
>>>> case
>>>>>> letters so I went out and bought a set of lowercase letter tiles
>>>> from
>>>>>> office depo.  We
>>>>>> used the tiles to make words and play junior scrabble.
>>>>
>>>>>> When I was a kid, if I covered the entire alphabet in
>>>> kindergarten it
>>>>>> was a major achievement.  phew
>>>>>> Eileen
>>>>
>>>>
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