[blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

Mon Oct 27 15:28:14 UTC 2008

Interesting choice of words, "taking parents by the throat" so you can
teach"the children how to get along". 
Maybe if adults got along without violence, kids wouldn't need to be
"taught" anything? 

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From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

Unfortunately you have a point there.  I just don't want the school to
teach morals and values.  I have no problem with them teaching manners.
I know most of the stuff schools are teaching is because parents are
lacking in their roles as teachers.  I'd like to take those parents by
the throat and tell them that I wouldn't have to bother with teaching
your kids about just plain respect for others if they would just use
common sense and teach the children how to get along with folks.  I love
how some parents don't want the school to teach things they think they
should learn at home but then the parents think they can learn
everything through osmosis.
What happened to, "If you get in trouble at school, you'll be in twice
as much when you get home."  It still works on today's children.  I've a
son's behavior that can prove it.
Barbara

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From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:39 AM
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

> My sister teaches kindergarten.  I'm sure she would agree that most 
> in-service days are essentially wasted.  However, parents, as well as 
> teachers, are tough to deal with.  My sister had one student in her 
> class who was going around kicking the other kids.  She asked his 
> parents to quit letting him wear cowboy boots to school before he 
> really hurt somebody, and they said his behavior was her fault because

> she wasn't keeping the little brat busy enough, or challenging him 
> enough.  Another time, a group of parents got mad at her for asking 
> the students each to put a chair up on the tables as they were leaving

> for the day.  The parents said that was the janitor's job, and their 
> children weren't growing up to be janitors.  My sister got marked down

> on a year-end evaluation for making the kids say "please" and "thank 
> you" in her classroom, because some parents said that teaching manners

> wasn't up to her and whether their kids said "please" and "thank you" 
> was a personal decision.  She said to go ahead and mark her down every

> year then, because kids needed to learn some social graces, and she 
> didn't want to have a classroom full of monkeys.  But that's the kind 
> of stuff she deals with in public school.
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's faith in himself. To take 
> advantage of that to break a man's spirit is devil's work. Take care 
> of what you are doing. Take care.--George Bernard Shaw in "Candide"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>
>
>> this is why my niece stopped being a teacher.  she said too many 
>> parents and the private school body expected her to teach the 
>> children manners, how to use a tissue to blow noses and the other 
>> stuff you mentioned. As far as the inservice days, i always wondered 
>> what in the world they learn every Wednesday, "their inservice day." 
>> v
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>
>>
>>> Just look at how much time the teachers spend learning mostly 
>>> worthless things during inservice time that is during the school day

>>> when the children should be at school.  Also look at some of the 
>>> things they're teaching instead of reading, writing and arithmetic.

>>> For goodness sake, why are the children learning about political 
>>> correctness and ethics and morals?
>>> Isn't
>>> teaching morals and ethics our job as a parent?  First and foremost,

>>> I want the school to help me make my child knowledgeable.  I don't 
>>> want them teaching my child how to be a citizen of the world.
>>> I'll get off my soapbox before I offend even more people than I've 
>>> already offended so far.  Sorry in advance,it's just what I think.
>>> |Barbara
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:41 PM
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>
>>>> Hard to believe that this country ranks last in education!
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org Date 
>>>>>sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:06:09 -0600
>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>>
>>>>>Congratulations on your first teacher conference.  I am weird, I
>>>> really love
>>>>>going and findout what kinds of stuff the kids are doing.  when i
>>>> used to
>>>>>volunteer in Gab's class I used to see what they were doing from
>>>> week to
>>>>>week.  This is the first year the teacher didn't need or want me
>>>> in the
>>>>>class, so next week we're going to the parent teacher conference
>>>> and I can't
>>>>>wait to see what's happening.  I know that Gab is doing well,
>>>> bringing home
>>>>>90's and 100's on her spelling tests.  Boy they had big words for
>>>> third
>>>>>graders today- excitability, gingerbread, generation, celebrate,
>>>> forceps,
>>>>>circular, centimeter, there is more, but ican't remember the
>>>> list.  V
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Eileen" <eileenlevin at comcast.net
>>>>>To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:41 PM
>>>>>Subject: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I just had my first parent teacher conference for kindergarten
>>>> and I am
>>>>>> in shock! The teacher sat for ten minutes just showing us all
>>>> the
>>>>>> material the class
>>>>>> has covered in the first 4 weeks of class.  They are expected to
>>>> know all
>>>>>> the letter names and sounds, rhyming,  write their name, and
>>>> other
>>>>>> things that
>>>>>> I can't even remember now.
>>>>
>>>>>> Each child is working on a monthly calendar,  personal essays
>>>> and they
>>>>>> not only discuss activities they form sentences about it as a
>>>> group on
>>>>>> the board.
>>>>
>>>>>> Wow! When I was working with Asher on learning to read I had no
>>>> idea
>>>>>> that he would be using all those skills  immediately.
>>>>
>>>>>> All the preschool told me was that he needed to work on lower
>>>> case
>>>>>> letters so I went out and bought a set of lowercase letter tiles
>>>> from
>>>>>> office depo.  We
>>>>>> used the tiles to make words and play junior scrabble.
>>>>
>>>>>> When I was a kid, if I covered the entire alphabet in
>>>> kindergarten it
>>>>>> was a major achievement.  phew
>>>>>> Eileen
>>>>
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