[blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

Tue Oct 28 11:28:34 UTC 2008

Children would always have to be taught.  They are born selfish and 
self-centered.  The problem is we all fight that for the rest of our lives, 
but thankfully many of us outgrow it enough to help the children learn.
Barbara

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From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:28 AM
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!

> Interesting choice of words, "taking parents by the throat" so you can
> teach"the children how to get along".
> Maybe if adults got along without violence, kids wouldn't need to be
> "taught" anything?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 3:48 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>
> Unfortunately you have a point there.  I just don't want the school to
> teach morals and values.  I have no problem with them teaching manners.
> I know most of the stuff schools are teaching is because parents are
> lacking in their roles as teachers.  I'd like to take those parents by
> the throat and tell them that I wouldn't have to bother with teaching
> your kids about just plain respect for others if they would just use
> common sense and teach the children how to get along with folks.  I love
> how some parents don't want the school to teach things they think they
> should learn at home but then the parents think they can learn
> everything through osmosis.
> What happened to, "If you get in trouble at school, you'll be in twice
> as much when you get home."  It still works on today's children.  I've a
> son's behavior that can prove it.
> Barbara
>
>
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> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:39 AM
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>
>> My sister teaches kindergarten.  I'm sure she would agree that most
>> in-service days are essentially wasted.  However, parents, as well as
>> teachers, are tough to deal with.  My sister had one student in her
>> class who was going around kicking the other kids.  She asked his
>> parents to quit letting him wear cowboy boots to school before he
>> really hurt somebody, and they said his behavior was her fault because
>
>> she wasn't keeping the little brat busy enough, or challenging him
>> enough.  Another time, a group of parents got mad at her for asking
>> the students each to put a chair up on the tables as they were leaving
>
>> for the day.  The parents said that was the janitor's job, and their
>> children weren't growing up to be janitors.  My sister got marked down
>
>> on a year-end evaluation for making the kids say "please" and "thank
>> you" in her classroom, because some parents said that teaching manners
>
>> wasn't up to her and whether their kids said "please" and "thank you"
>> was a personal decision.  She said to go ahead and mark her down every
>
>> year then, because kids needed to learn some social graces, and she
>> didn't want to have a classroom full of monkeys.  But that's the kind
>> of stuff she deals with in public school.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> It is easy--terribly easy--to shake a man's faith in himself. To take
>> advantage of that to break a man's spirit is devil's work. Take care
>> of what you are doing. Take care.--George Bernard Shaw in "Candide"
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 10:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>
>>
>>> this is why my niece stopped being a teacher.  she said too many
>>> parents and the private school body expected her to teach the
>>> children manners, how to use a tissue to blow noses and the other
>>> stuff you mentioned. As far as the inservice days, i always wondered
>>> what in the world they learn every Wednesday, "their inservice day."
>>> v
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just look at how much time the teachers spend learning mostly
>>>> worthless things during inservice time that is during the school day
>
>>>> when the children should be at school.  Also look at some of the
>>>> things they're teaching instead of reading, writing and arithmetic.
>
>>>> For goodness sake, why are the children learning about political
>>>> correctness and ethics and morals?
>>>> Isn't
>>>> teaching morals and ethics our job as a parent?  First and foremost,
>
>>>> I want the school to help me make my child knowledgeable.  I don't
>>>> want them teaching my child how to be a citizen of the world.
>>>> I'll get off my soapbox before I offend even more people than I've
>>>> already offended so far.  Sorry in advance,it's just what I think.
>>>> |Barbara
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> From: "trishs" <slosser at metrocast.net>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:41 PM
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>>
>>>>> Hard to believe that this country ranks last in education!
>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net
>>>>>>To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org Date
>>>>>>sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:06:09 -0600
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>>>
>>>>>>Congratulations on your first teacher conference.  I am weird, I
>>>>> really love
>>>>>>going and findout what kinds of stuff the kids are doing.  when i
>>>>> used to
>>>>>>volunteer in Gab's class I used to see what they were doing from
>>>>> week to
>>>>>>week.  This is the first year the teacher didn't need or want me
>>>>> in the
>>>>>>class, so next week we're going to the parent teacher conference
>>>>> and I can't
>>>>>>wait to see what's happening.  I know that Gab is doing well,
>>>>> bringing home
>>>>>>90's and 100's on her spelling tests.  Boy they had big words for
>>>>> third
>>>>>>graders today- excitability, gingerbread, generation, celebrate,
>>>>> forceps,
>>>>>>circular, centimeter, there is more, but ican't remember the
>>>>> list.  V
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Eileen" <eileenlevin at comcast.net
>>>>>>To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:41 PM
>>>>>>Subject: [blparent] wow kindergarten has changed!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just had my first parent teacher conference for kindergarten
>>>>> and I am
>>>>>>> in shock! The teacher sat for ten minutes just showing us all
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> material the class
>>>>>>> has covered in the first 4 weeks of class.  They are expected to
>>>>> know all
>>>>>>> the letter names and sounds, rhyming,  write their name, and
>>>>> other
>>>>>>> things that
>>>>>>> I can't even remember now.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Each child is working on a monthly calendar,  personal essays
>>>>> and they
>>>>>>> not only discuss activities they form sentences about it as a
>>>>> group on
>>>>>>> the board.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow! When I was working with Asher on learning to read I had no
>>>>> idea
>>>>>>> that he would be using all those skills  immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> All the preschool told me was that he needed to work on lower
>>>>> case
>>>>>>> letters so I went out and bought a set of lowercase letter tiles
>>>>> from
>>>>>>> office depo.  We
>>>>>>> used the tiles to make words and play junior scrabble.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I was a kid, if I covered the entire alphabet in
>>>>> kindergarten it
>>>>>>> was a major achievement.  phew
>>>>>>> Eileen
>>>>>
>>>>>
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