[blparent] [Bulk] Re: coming to my defense

Wed Apr 29 20:42:22 UTC 2009

Hi,

Agreed!  It doesn't really matter what she said, but that she said it that 
should be dealt with.  She should have been made to apologize to Gab for 
hurting her feelings.

Tammy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:54 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] coming to my defense

> I'm just saying that if someone called me and said that my daughter had 
> insulted her friend or her parents, I woldn't bury my head in the sand and 
> hope it passes.  What she said to your daughter was quite harsh, and needs 
> to be dealth with accofdingly.  Perhaps she doesn't know much if anyting 
> about boindness, but let's deal with the bad behavior first, then deal 
> with the education.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] coming to my defense
>
>
>>I don't want to start a war or make it bad for Gab.  I was just surprised 
>>at
>> what children think and how mean they can be.  V
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Cooks
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 10:59 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] coming to my defense
>>
>> Theese children are eight years old. not teens.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Thea Eaton" <thea at doodledoo.com>
>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] coming to my defense
>>
>>
>>>I remember that when I was younger, I had an argument with one of my best
>>> girl-friends about clothes too. The friend was jealous of an outfit that 
>>> I
>>> wore, and ended up lashing out at me and insulting me on something else,
>>> totally unrelated. I was hurt, but realized that she didn't mean it. I
>>> think
>>> most girls have a tiff like that with their friends at times.
>>>
>>> I think it is important to remember that teenage girls, are teenage 
>>> girls,
>>> and to remind her that sometimes friends get mad at each other and can
>>> lash
>>> out in a hurtful way. I don't think that it necessarily really had
>>> anything
>>> to do with her being blind? But maybe the friend was jealous of the
>>> clothes
>>> she was wearing? And maybe didn't want her to wear that outfit? In that
>>> case
>>> she could have lashed out in any way, called her fat, etc.. Teenage 
>>> girls
>>> can be very sensitive about appearances, clothes, hair, and such. I 
>>> would
>>> definitely encourage Gab to talk to her friend, and ask her what was
>>> really
>>> bothering her. If the girl is old enough to realize what she said, I
>>> wouldn't involve the grandmother if she was not there at the time that 
>>> it
>>> happened, but instead try to have the girls talk to each other and
>>> reconcile
>>> in a mature way? Were they good friends before? Maybe you can invite her
>>> over so they can talk about what was really bothering her?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:00 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] coming to my defense
>>>
>>> Honestly, I feel sorry for Kiana in this situation, as well as Gab. 
>>> It's
>>> true that Gab got her feelings hurt, and Veronica got maligned, but 
>>> Kiana
>>> is
>>>
>>> the one who is missing out on people who have differences.  Hopefully, 
>>> as
>>> she grows up, she'll learn to have a broader attitude about the 
>>> abilities
>>> and uniquenesses of others.  It seems to me that Veronica has already 
>>> done
>>> the educating and reaching out, and now it's a matter of Kiana growing 
>>> up
>>> a
>>> little, and perhaps her grandmother growing up some as well.  I would 
>>> have
>>> expected the grandmother to make Kiana say she was sorry at the bus 
>>> stop,
>>> in
>>>
>>> person and not by text messaging, but she chose not to face an awkward
>>> situation.  Too bad, but shrug it off, Veronica and Gab, with the
>>> assurance
>>> that you know the truth.
>>>
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed
>>> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "blind parents" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:29 PM
>>> Subject: [blparent] coming to my defense
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ok, this is how it went.  Kiana accused Gab of wearing the same dress 2
>>>> days
>>>> in a row.  Gab said she had not, that the day before she had worn tan
>>>> pants
>>>> and her spirit shirt.  Kiana said that Gab had not.  So then Gab told 
>>>> her
>>>> if
>>>> she didn't believe her, she could ask her mom.  So then Kiana told Gab
>>>> that
>>>> blind people didn't know anything and they were stupid.  Gab said she
>>>> wanted
>>>> to hit her, but did not.  Gab told her that blind people could do
>>>> anything
>>>> except drive.   Gab told her that I knew everything especially what she
>>>> wore
>>>> each day.  Kiana just laughed at her and insisted that blind people 
>>>> were
>>>> nothing.  Of course, my daughter came home in tears.
>>>>
>>>> I tried to convince her that it didn't matter what her friend said, but
>>>> it
>>>> mattered to my daughter.  So I called Kiana's grandmother and told her
>>>> what
>>>> happened.  She said that her granddaughter didn't mean to offend me.  I
>>>> saw
>>>> Kiana at the bus stop this morning and really espected an apology, but
>>>> there
>>>> was none coming.  I guess I should be satisfied that her grandmother 
>>>> knew
>>>> what happened, but it really bugs me. V
>>>
>>>
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