[blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting

Tammy, Paul and Colyn tcl189 at rogers.com
Wed Jun 3 03:34:13 UTC 2009 

Hi,

They're not stories Rebecca, they're true, and if sharing them with lists 
like this one and meetings, they're be better prepared should this sort of 
thing happen to them.

Tammy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:52 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting


> I'm not doubting anybody, just that I don't see a lot of education going
> on just stories. If there is a lesson in these stories, I'm totally
> missing it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Veronica Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:20 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>
> But Rebecca, these statements are not made up.  They happen in real life
> and they have happened to some of us on the list.  Social workers have
> come to our homes and checked up on us because someone said our children
> had their clothes on inside out and they had chocolate spread across
> their chin.  We are not trying to scare people, just educate them. V
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:52 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>
> My daughter is learning to put her clothes on and has put them on inside
> out, backwards, you n ame it. She's so proud of herself, I won't correct
> her, that joy and confidence she displays is precious.
> The times people have commented, I just explain that she did it herself,
> and I say it proudly. It hasn't been an issue.
> Also, if you are going to present raw data, how is it not fear mongering
> when you offer no supporting data. It's like saying "100 people will be
> killed in a car wreck today, you might be one of them" without saying
> "to lessen the odds, wear a seatbelt and don't ride with someone who has
> been drinking".
> Knowing what actions and attitudes we can take is far more bennificial
> then just tossing out numbers with the "and you might be next" mindset.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:34 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>
> It's not fear-mongering.  It's just pointing out a fact.  Sighted people
> sometimes have such an overwhelming sense of fear of being blind that
> they butt into people's business because they don't think they could
> handle a child if they were blind.
> Those people are there.  They always want to help you.  After putting
> your child's shoes on the right feet for 9/10 of the school year and
> then you put them on wrong by accident, instead of just changing them,
> they have to point out to you that you made a mistake.  I know, we all
> do that to some extent.
> Barbara
>
> If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of
> whom you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:46 AM
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>
>> I don't think any of us are excluded per sea, but putting out these
>> stats with no other data is nothing more then fear mongering in my
>> oppinion. What value is to be gained in that?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Kliph
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 6:27 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>
>> That would be me also.  I am blind, but my wife can see.  So does that
>
>> exclude us?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Scott Lawlor
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:43 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>
>> I'd also be interested in this information and does any of the data
>> apply to
>>
>> a situation where only one of the parents is blind?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>
>>
>>> Interesting.
>>> I'd be interested to k now more about this statistic.
>>> One half of all blind parents.
>>> Where is this number coming from?
>>> What are the nature of these contacts? Do these cases involve the
>> blind
>>> parent who is at home with his/her kids or ones who work outside the
>>> home?
>>> What impact does a blind couple raising a child v. a sighted-blind
>>> couple have on these contacts with social services?
>>> What sparks these contacts?Does doing something "unconventional" such
>> as
>>> having a child born at home or choosing not to vaccinate play a
>>> factor in if CPS comes calling?
>>> Has anybody done a quantifiable breakdown of blind parents and their
>>> contact with CPS?
>>>
>>> I ask because I've heard this statistic before but would be
>>> interested to know more about the data driving it.
>>> Anybody?
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:14 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>>
>>> I'm so glad that, according to our current schedule, I'll be able to
>>> attend.
>>> It's funny, in 2006 I attended the meeting and you talked about how
>>> something like one half of all blind parents will have Child
>> Protective
>>> Services call on them.  In some respects, I was so glad--yet very
>>> appalled--to hear that fact.  A friend of mine insisted I go to that
>>> meeting, not knowing that was the subject.  I had just marked the
>> first
>>> anniversary of having the twins and had just had CPS at my door on
>> that
>>> last day of school.  Back then, Paul would never cry when he was hurt
>
>>> and he'd fallen on a toy and got a big bruise and I didn't know it.
>>> I am the bather and changer in our house and at that time my
>>> husband's
>> job
>>> took him away quite a bit.  Luckily he was home that day.
>>> So anyone who's going, I hope to meet you this year.
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>> If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of
>>> whom you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:38 PM
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>>
>>>> It is so funny, I was just remembering meeting you the year the
>>>> convention was in Kentucky.  Was that 2002 or 2003?  Gab was very
>>>> young and I left her with my hubby for the first time.  I felt lost
>>>> without her.  Well anyway I went to your meeting and felt completely
>
>>>> like a dodo.  I asked questions such as how will she know what color
>> a
>>>
>>>> crayon is or how will she color with me or how will I teach her the
>>>> alphabet.  How will I read to her.  They all seemed trivial but you
>>>> were so kind and made me feel right at home.
>>>> Thanks for everything.  I wish I was going this year, maybe next
>> time.
>>>
>>>> V
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>
>>>> On Behalf Of Deborah Kent Stein
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:01 AM
>>>> To: Multiple recipients of NFBnet blparent Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>
>>>> This year the Blind Parents Group will meet at convention on July 4
>>>> from 7:30 to 10 P.M.  Traditionally this is an informal meeting
>>>> where everyone is
>>>>
>>>> free to share experiences and ideas.  I would love to hear your
>>>> thoughts about possible topics for discussion, so please feel free
>>>> to contact me
>>>> on-
>>>> or off-list.  I look forward to meeting many of you at this year's
>>>> meeting!
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Stein
>>>> dkent5817 at worldnet.att.net
>>>>
>>>>
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