[blparent] Blind Parents Meeting

Wed Jun 3 15:51:22 UTC 2009

I did say in a later message that all you can do is do your best at both 
raising your child)ren) and teaching those around you.  Of course, I was 
proved to be wrong in my numbers and I admitted that I'd made a mistake.
Barbara

If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of whom 
you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.

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From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:52 AM
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting

> My daughter is learning to put her clothes on and has put them on inside
> out, backwards, you n ame it. She's so proud of herself, I won't correct
> her, that joy and confidence she displays is precious.
> The times people have commented, I just explain that she did it herself,
> and I say it proudly. It hasn't been an issue.
> Also, if you are going to present raw data, how is it not fear mongering
> when you offer no supporting data. It's like saying "100 people will be
> killed in a car wreck today, you might be one of them" without saying
> "to lessen the odds, wear a seatbelt and don't ride with someone who has
> been drinking".
> Knowing what actions and attitudes we can take is far more bennificial
> then just tossing out numbers with the "and you might be next" mindset.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:34 AM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>
> It's not fear-mongering.  It's just pointing out a fact.  Sighted people
> sometimes have such an overwhelming sense of fear of being blind that
> they butt into people's business because they don't think they could
> handle a child if they were blind.
> Those people are there.  They always want to help you.  After putting
> your child's shoes on the right feet for 9/10 of the school year and
> then you put them on wrong by accident, instead of just changing them,
> they have to point out to you that you made a mistake.  I know, we all
> do that to some extent.
> Barbara
>
> If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of
> whom you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.
>
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> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:46 AM
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>
>> I don't think any of us are excluded per sea, but putting out these
>> stats with no other data is nothing more then fear mongering in my
>> oppinion. What value is to be gained in that?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Kliph
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 6:27 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>
>> That would be me also.  I am blind, but my wife can see.  So does that
>
>> exclude us?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Scott Lawlor
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:43 PM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>
>> I'd also be interested in this information and does any of the data
>> apply to
>>
>> a situation where only one of the parents is blind?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>
>>
>>> Interesting.
>>> I'd be interested to k now more about this statistic.
>>> One half of all blind parents.
>>> Where is this number coming from?
>>> What are the nature of these contacts? Do these cases involve the
>> blind
>>> parent who is at home with his/her kids or ones who work outside the
>>> home?
>>> What impact does a blind couple raising a child v. a sighted-blind
>>> couple have on these contacts with social services?
>>> What sparks these contacts?Does doing something "unconventional" such
>> as
>>> having a child born at home or choosing not to vaccinate play a
>>> factor in if CPS comes calling?
>>> Has anybody done a quantifiable breakdown of blind parents and their
>>> contact with CPS?
>>>
>>> I ask because I've heard this statistic before but would be
>>> interested to know more about the data driving it.
>>> Anybody?
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Barbara Hammel
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:14 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>>
>>> I'm so glad that, according to our current schedule, I'll be able to
>>> attend.
>>> It's funny, in 2006 I attended the meeting and you talked about how
>>> something like one half of all blind parents will have Child
>> Protective
>>> Services call on them.  In some respects, I was so glad--yet very
>>> appalled--to hear that fact.  A friend of mine insisted I go to that
>>> meeting, not knowing that was the subject.  I had just marked the
>> first
>>> anniversary of having the twins and had just had CPS at my door on
>> that
>>> last day of school.  Back then, Paul would never cry when he was hurt
>
>>> and he'd fallen on a toy and got a big bruise and I didn't know it.
>>> I am the bather and changer in our house and at that time my
>>> husband's
>> job
>>> took him away quite a bit.  Luckily he was home that day.
>>> So anyone who's going, I hope to meet you this year.
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>> If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care:  of
>>> whom you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:38 PM
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>>
>>>> It is so funny, I was just remembering meeting you the year the
>>>> convention was in Kentucky.  Was that 2002 or 2003?  Gab was very
>>>> young and I left her with my hubby for the first time.  I felt lost
>>>> without her.  Well anyway I went to your meeting and felt completely
>
>>>> like a dodo.  I asked questions such as how will she know what color
>> a
>>>
>>>> crayon is or how will she color with me or how will I teach her the
>>>> alphabet.  How will I read to her.  They all seemed trivial but you
>>>> were so kind and made me feel right at home.
>>>> Thanks for everything.  I wish I was going this year, maybe next
>> time.
>>>
>>>> V
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>
>>>> On Behalf Of Deborah Kent Stein
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:01 AM
>>>> To: Multiple recipients of NFBnet blparent Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>
>>>> This year the Blind Parents Group will meet at convention on July 4
>>>> from 7:30 to 10 P.M.  Traditionally this is an informal meeting
>>>> where everyone is
>>>>
>>>> free to share experiences and ideas.  I would love to hear your
>>>> thoughts about possible topics for discussion, so please feel free
>>>> to contact me
>>>> on-
>>>> or off-list.  I look forward to meeting many of you at this year's
>>>> meeting!
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Stein
>>>> dkent5817 at worldnet.att.net
>>>>
>>>>
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