[blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
Barbara Hammel
poetlori8 at msn.com
Wed Jun 3 16:45:36 UTC 2009
I think that's a very good idea, Kate. Bullies aren't just on the bus and
the playground.
Barbara
If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care: of whom
you speak, to whom you speak, and how and when and where.
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From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:45 AM
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>
> I have a suggestion.
>
> When this woman threatens to call DCF on you write it down. Write the
> date, the time if you can, what was said by her and you, and have it close
> at hand. I don’t know for certain but this may be considered harassment.
> I had an incident here that was similar and a friend had a situation that
> sound sort of the same. I will state them so you can see what I am
> saying.
>
> My situation.
> I took my older daughter out back of our patio on a Friday night to help
> set up a moon garden. A moon garden is a garden with plants that bloom at
> night so I was having her help me prep the soil and we made markers to
> identify the plants. On the cards we had included what the plant was and
> some of the ways it could be used. We have a woman above us who is
> extremely religious and has mental issues. She called down from her patio
> how I was keeping my daughter up too late, it was nine, and that we were
> being loud. First we were talking at a normal volume and the noise
> ordinance doesn’t kick in till ten. I told her we would talk quieter and
> apologized if we disturbed her. She mumbled something I couldn’t hear and
> went inside so I finished with my daughter and we picked up our things and
> went inside to go to bed.
> The next morning I was contacted by a woman who handles disputes on the
> property. She informed me that the woman upstairs complained that I had
> my child running by the lake all night and that I was using public
> property for religious purposes. I informed the caller that first off I
> can use public property for religious purposes its protected under the
> first amendment, and that I wanted an example of what this woman felt made
> what I was doing a religious practice. I also stated that we were inside
> at nine forty five, and the noise ordinance set by our county started at
> ten. I then asked her if she would like to have a written copy of what
> happened because I wrote it down. She said no and then stated that it
> must have been a misunderstanding. We hung up and I added the call to my
> file just in case more came of it. Nothing did and that woman hasn’t said
> a word to me since.
>
> My friend’s situation.
> A friend of mine got a guide dog and returned home to his condo that
> normally didn’t allow dogs. One of the other tenants saw the dog and
> flipped out. She had this tantrum about the dog being there and wouldn’t
> let him explain what the dog was for. She called the condo board and he
> met with them and explained what the dog was and all was fine. This woman
> was relentless, she would tell him every time she saw him that the dog
> shouldn’t be there and he wrote each event in a file. One day he walked
> his dog and the dog wouldn’t stop picking his feet up. So he felt around
> the grass and found tacks. Now this woman would follow him and see where
> he took the dog to walk so he did the only thing he could. He called the
> police and filed a report. He had an officer come out and he showed him
> the file of what the woman said to him and told about her following him
> when he walked the dog and about the tacks. The officer informed my
> friend that even though there was no proof about the tacks he could file a
> report do to harassment. This report would place this person as suspect
> if any thing happened to his dog or him. Two weeks later she was having a
> fit and when he opened his door to see what was going on she walked back
> in her unit slamming the door. He found out later from some one that she
> had received a letter from the board informing her that a report had been
> filed with the police for harassment and if her behavior continued she
> would be breaching guidelines for the complex and her unit could be
> seized.
>
> So write down every thing even if it sounds like nothing.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Kate
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>
>> My husband and I were talking about this last night. He had a couple
>> suggestions and thoughts which I'll pass on.
>> 1. This woman threatened you which is probably illegal. (note, he is not
>> a lawyer).
>> 2. Her threats are keeping you from using a service provided by the
>> condo a service that you are expected to pay for.
>> 3. Consider talking to the condo board (which probably won't work as
>> those boards seem to do nothing but collect money) and/or a lawyer.
>> 4. The woman made a threat and referred to what is generally a protected
>> class, i.e. disability, race sexual orientation, religion) and that type
>> of speech (might even be considered hate speech) is generally taken a
>> lot more seriously then "Your car is parked in the wrong place" type of
>> neighbor contact. Husband suggests you talk with a lawyer or even a
>> police officer if you know one and basically let her know her comments
>> were out of line.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tammy, Paul and Colyn
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:39 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Tell her go ahead and call them if she wants. You're not doing anything
>> wrong by taking Sara anywhere you think she's safe, and she's just a
>> nosey busybody who should mind her own business.
>>
>> Tammy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:49 PM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>
>>
>> > Sarah's father can see, and we've had one round with Social Services
>> > already. Then the other day, someone I know saw me carrying a baby
>> > flotation device into my house from the trunk of the car. It's an
>> inner
>> > tube with a seat built in for the baby's legs. Anyway, the person
>> said
>> > that of course, I would only take the baby in the pool if there was a
>> > sighted person to watch. There's a pool for the condos where I live.
>> I
>> > said not necessarily, because if I were right there, with my hands on
>> the
>> > baby the whole time, I would be satisfied with that. She said she
>> would
>> > call Social Services if she ever saw me taking the baby in the pool by
>>
>> > myself--which means, I guess, that I'll only go when there's a sighted
>>
>> > person to watch. I don't want those people knocking at my door again.
>> >
>> > Jo Elizabeth
>> >
>> > "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
>> changed
>> > until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>> > To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:46 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>> >
>> >
>> >>I don't think any of us are excluded per sea, but putting out these
>> >> stats with no other data is nothing more then fear mongering in my
>> >> oppinion. What value is to be gained in that?
>> >
>> >
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